Anyone tried it ?
I stay away from products whose purveyors canât even construct proper pseudoscientific blather.
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As I understand it, one thing horses donât need is Vitamin C. They manufacture it themselves
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What do you want it to do?
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Hereâs a link to what they provide as peer reviewed papers and studies.
There are quite a few studies that support the benefits of the product.
I havenât tried it yet, but Iâd like to. Itâs very pricey.
âSome white blood cells contain granulocytes which enable them to âcleanâ an inïŹamed joint by destroying the bacteria in it.â
Umm. Some white blod cells are granulocytes. (Basophils, eosinophils, and neutrophils.)
If they canât even get this straight, I donât care what papers they list to allegedly bolster their claims.
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While there is validity to what the compounds in rose hips can do, the question is - what dose does it take?
The first study in the link fed the horses 210gm a day, to horses with a mean body weight of 432kg (950lb). If you extrapolate that to a per-kg serving size, thatâs 0.48gm per kg body weight. So, a 500kg (1100lb) horse would theoretically need 240gm, a 600kg (1320lb) horse would need 288gm, etc.
That sounds like a lot, and pretty darn $$
Almost all the studies listed are in people, and you canât assume something works the same for horses as it does people, let alone if it does, at the same weight-dependent dose.
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I tried the human product. It did nothing that I could discern. Trying it for chronic tendinopathy and osteoarthritis. I think I gave it a 3 month trial.
Susan
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Thanks for the feedback. I am a barn manager and always interested to find a good supplement/modality/remedy. I donât mind personality paying for a really effective supplement. But there is a lot available and it helps to get feedback on as much as possible.
Your best strategy is very good hay, and then get the vitamins and minerals met with either a VMS in a beet pulp mash, or a very good ration balancer. And flax. Then if you need calories for a specific horse beyond more hay and alfalfa, look further for a cool cal type feed.
You might want to buy and read a good basic handbook like Julie Gettyâs âFeed Your Horse Like a Horseâ which reflects current best practices.
Horses donât need Vitamin C, they manufacture their own. Feeding too much Vitamin C can impair their ability to manufacture it.
Many exploded human health ideas find their way to horses, and multidoses of Vitamin C via Linus Pauling in the 196Os could be one.
Haring off after random supplements you see on line is expensive and likely pointless. Educate yourself on the basics and you will be able to resist random sales pitches and the low level of persistent fraud that exists in the horse supplement business (and the human supplement world as well).
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Youâre a hoot. A pretty rude, offensive hoot. But a naive hoot none the less.
A hoot? Sheâs right. I can see how the comment could some across as rude, but itâs you whoâs taking it that way, as I certainly donât see it as rude, just straight to the point without any fluffy wording
We ALL need to educate ourselves on the basics at the very least, and a level above that ideally. If we donât have that, we canât possibly do anything else other than listen to marketing tactics, or hope we find someone who actually knows what theyâre doing to guide us. And even then, we donât have to remain willfully ignorant.
Horses make their own C. Fact. Are there times when production is outpaced by use, and/or production goes down? Absolutely, which means there are valid times to add it to the diet.
There are LOTS of people who think that just because some food is high in X nutrient, that it has value to the horse, even when that nutrient is required by the horse. But what they fail to understand - because they donât understand the basics - is that âhighâ is relative to a human, not a horse.
Someone asked me the other day if they could feed Brazil nuts to horses, because they are âhigh in seleniumâ. Sure, if youâre a person, where a couple a day gets you closer to the 400mcg we need. 1 Brazil Nut has ana average of around 50mcg.
But horses need around 3mg, as a starting point. That means if you want to meet half of that, youâre feeding 30 nuts a day. Doable, maybe, but REALLY expensive!
I asked what you wanted the rose hips to do, and you never answered. If itâs Vit C youâre after, there are way cheaper ways to do that.
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