there is also Catherston Dazzler or Cicera’s Icewater - I know Cicera you can get fresh but he has produced some very nice offspring.
You could also look at Aberjack - he as at the TOP of the USEF standings for eventing.
One I was surprised to see in the top 5 for eventing was Goodtimes.
Bradenburgs Windstar would have been cool too but he lost his battle to cancer I believe last week. RIP.
One iteresting tidbit about Riverman - I know he get’s a lot of bad press for hot temperaments but the he produces if you can ride them.
He is in the top thirty in every jumping discipline - Eventer #4, Hunter #13 and Jumper #27
We have a Riverman daughter in our barn - she was hot but with the right training program she was completely managable and man that mare could jump. She is now in foal to C. Quito - cant wait to see the foal!
I think Mighty Magic would be better. Mighty Magic has a much higher percentage of TB blood and has more jumping genes.
prevent sweating
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I have a 16.3 h. TB mare with Pleasant Colony and Cox’s ridge lines. She has had a couple of foals and is coming 8, I feel a good time to try some frozen on her. Breeding for eventing. She needs a little substance, a better hind leg (slightly sickle hocked and a bit straight) and a good engine. Which of these two stallions do you think would be the better choice?[/QUOTE]
Have seen Royaldik in person more recently, he might have been a “heavy” stallion with a thick neck years ago but he certainly isn’t now, far from it, he is an equisitely “pretty” stallion of medium to light frame, moves well, covers ground easily with a quick hind leg in canter, he jumped well. I have a few photos of him if you would like to have them PM me. I would imagine he would cross very well with a TB mare to produce a very nice eventer and could imagine he would pretty up even the plainest of mares.
Video of a Royaldikoffspring
Hello,
Here is a video of Royaldik as a 6-year old in a jumping competition:
http://youtu.be/-4C0d1U5poc
Here is a video of one of his Wurttemberg offspring
which was presented at the Birkhof stallion show in 2010
under dressage saddle:
Here is a video of a 2-year old mare by Royaldik:
Here is a video of a young mare for the Top Eventer auction:
Enjoy watching
bye topolinara
[QUOTE=topolinara;6170683]
Hello,
Here is a video of Royaldik as a 6-year old in a jumping competition:
http://youtu.be/-4C0d1U5poc
Here is a video of one of his Wurttemberg offspring
which was presented at the Birkhof stallion show in 2010
under dressage saddle:
Here is a video of a 2-year old mare by Royaldik:
Here is a video of a young mare for the Top Eventer auction:
Enjoy watching
bye topolinara[/QUOTE]
Just goes to show you that the R line does have some jump - Royal Diamond does have some jumping lines via his Dam as well as Royaldik being out of a full sister to Heraldik…
I know the breeder of Mighty Magic, and have seen half siblings, and the Heraldik mare. I have a picture of her with her foal this past year. She is a big beautiful dark bay mare. She is substantial, which is why he bred her to the TB stallion Mytens. You can’t just look at the blood in the animal on paper, you sometimes need to ask why they bred to a TB. She is a beautiful Heraldik mare and breeds modern, but could handle more blood as was the case with Mighty Magic.
Tim
[QUOTE=RyTimMick;6171496]
I know the breeder of Mighty Magic, and have seen half siblings, and the Heraldik mare. I have a picture of her with her foal this past year. She is a big beautiful dark bay mare. She is substantial, which is why he bred her to the TB stallion Mytens. You can’t just look at the blood in the animal on paper, you sometimes need to ask why they bred to a TB. She is a beautiful Heraldik mare and breeds modern, but could handle more blood as was the case with Mighty Magic.
Tim[/QUOTE]
Love MM!
Bringing this thread back to see if anyone has any further information on Royaldik. Just saw him at the Burghley Stallion show and was impressed. Fabulous jump on that boy and he looks light enough for eventers. Good movement too. I meet a few very good British breeders who like him and their offspring by him. So I’m now very interested in him. I love my Graf baby (out of a b mare) but think Royaldik will be a nice cross as well.
Anyone know if he will be available in the USA? I can’t seem to find anything.
I think the owner (who also has kannan and graf) was selling through Judy yancy–maybe she would know or offer it next year? (And of course that makes me think of Kannan also as i think he seems to throw top jumpers and eventers.)
Kaanan had one compete at Burghley this year. I can’t tell you who, it just registered as I looked through the starter list.
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I have seen Royaldik at the Bundeschampionat when he was either 5 or 6 (Do not 100& remember). He has a huuuge neck, is a heavy horse, has in my eyes a slow hinleg and as said above for me not really in option if breeding towards eventing. The first MM offspring has been licensed this year. MM has to my knowledge had a small injury in autumn, hence they have frozen him again. I have picked up frozen by him late in October, as he will not be available fresh next year. They will go on showing him and I think they have high hopes. What I wanted to express earklier: if Michi Jung had R already as a young horse and since I could see in my database from the show reciord he did some tiny XC with him, I assume that he was not good enough for the bigger things otherwise they would have kept him in training with MJ. He did classes that are lower that what you see at CIC* MM did win the young horse worldchampionships.
What should be noted: don expect that MM will refine his offspring. a lot of Germans went this way and were suprised in the first year. He throws substantial and if you have a heavy old fashione WB mare, he is for sure not a refining option. I also know that the Holstein Verband has him for the first time in their statistics from the evaluations that they do. I would need to look that up, but it was quite positive. I knwo a person who bred 16% of his Holstein branded offspring 
As said, R might be a good horse to get some TB influence and rideability into a dressage bred mare, but for a 3day horse - No, do not think that that is a good idea.
Grafenstolz, MM and “Fred” (A Fine Romance ?) should be much more interesting choices.
Or the newly licensed stallion at Celle stud: Canstakko out of Mr. Butts great mareline (related to Amadeus, Abraxxas etc.) - unproven but very interesting and I liked him a lot at licensing and preselection !. No idea whether there will be frozen already as he is turnig 3 in January.[/QUOTE]
I am friends with Hennings Lienau , MM’s breeder. When you see MM’s mother , grandmother and great grandmother then you know MM will not refine.
There is a reason Herr Lienau used two TB stallions in a row on his stamm.
Did anyone get their mare in foal to MM this season? We tried twice, but had poor luck. The straws came apart during thawing. The mare took on the first try with fresh from another stallion
My DD rode MM quite a bit this summer and would like to have a MM of her own. I would try again for a MM if I knew that some mares are in foal to him this season.
Yes I have a mare back in foal to MM. I bought six doses last year because I had heard mixed results with it. We got two in foal on one dose each last year. We bred one mare back this year with one dose and she conceived twins - and so far is holding after the reduction of one.
The freeze date on the used straws is: 16.12.2010
Awe, different collection/freeze than we got.
Congrats on all the MM foals!
Also exploding straws
I also did not get my mare in foal to MM this year. The vet said the straws “exploded” upon thawing. She said this usually means it is not processed correctly when frozen. Sounds like I am not the only one. A very expensive and disappointing season. May be a good idea to find out who is processing before you buy.
Fibber, that is exactly what happened to the straws here. Our vet even tried to catch the semen on the second try and managed to save a little of it, but it didn’t work.
Bet said there was no “bubble” in the straw.
Do other countries use a different thawing method than is used in the US?
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I think the owner (who also has kannan and graf) was selling through Judy yancy–maybe she would know or offer it next year? (And of course that makes me think of Kannan also as i think he seems to throw top jumpers and eventers.)[/QUOTE]
That was my plan to talk check with her. Hilltop also sells some of his stallions so will check with them first. Just thought that I would check here first. Th British breeders I spoke with said his frozen was very good.
I’ve heard from several that MM is not really a refining stallion but crossed on a TB mare I don’t think I would be too worried. Graf, who has less blood up close, seems to really stamp his get with a very modern type. But I’d still prefer to use him on a TB for an event foal. From what I saw of Royaldik’s offspring, he is refining some as well.
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