Can Someone explain these to me and what they mean exactly?? I am so confused on these!
Thanks
They are warmblood registries.
RPSI is the North American branch of a German Verband (Rheinland Pfalz-saar). http://www.rhpsi.com/
KWPN is the Royal Dutch Warmblood registry. Website for the N.A. branch is here - http://kwpn-na.org/ .
A lot of warmblood breeds are really similar, does anyone know what diferentiates them?
This is a heck of a question with a long, detailed, and complicated answer. I’ll do my best to deconstruct it, but it’s… challenging.
Basically, the breed is warmblood. What we talk about in terms of KWPN, Oldenburg, Hanoverian, Westfalen, etc, are registries. You’ll see horses cross registries in some fashions.
For example, let’s look at Donnerhall. He was born and subsequently registered as an Oldenburg. However as a stallion, he was approved for a truck-load of registries (Hano, Westfalen, KWPN, DWB, Bavarian, and several others). So offspring of Donnerhall (who was an Oldenburg) could be a Hanoverian, Westfalen, etc etc etc. Essentially that approval means that mares in other registries (so a mare that is born and registered Hanoverian) could breed to Donnerhall (an Oldenburg) and the subsequent foal could be registered as a Hanoverian.
The closest warmblood registry to a breed that exists is Trakehners. They have a closed book - Trakehner stallions may be approved for other registries, but outside stallions will not be approved to the Trakehner book (with the exception of thoroughbreds and Anglo Arabs, if I recall correctly).
So the short answer is essentially that the breed of horse these all encapsulate is “warmblood” - the registries are what distinguishes them (and there’s many ways for horses of different registries or even different breeds, like thoroughbreds or anglo arabs, to show up in the mix).
Once you start looking at international reciprocity things get even more convoluted. Some german registries have north american branches, but then some north american registries are more independent/less affiliated. Some have reciprocity and some do not. It can be very hard to keep straight. (For example, the Oldenburger brand, in Germany, means GOV - but the GOV-NA has lost the right to the brand, so any GOV approved/registered horse born and bred in NA will not have the brand. The rights to the brand belong to ISR/OldNA, which is the North American Oldenburg group - so a branded NA Oldenburg is a member of the ISR registry, not the GOV one.)
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Good explanation Edre, and I admire you for taking it on.
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:lol: It’s fresh in my mind because I was grilling my more-educated friend on this issue recently over a confusion I had over how a stallion’s registry approval list was phrased. I figure with enough repetition it may eventually stick.
Someone more clever than I should figure out how to make a chart indicating what’s a branch of what/similar name but unaffiliated with what. (Lookin’ at you, Hanoverian.) I feel like that would be the greatest “Jeopardy” category ever.
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It would be , wouldn’t it?:lol:
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