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Thomas-
I am GLAD AC actually did something for horses with no water. [/QUOTE] And seemingly according to the news reports no food either. Also according to the reports someone who has one conviction already, one in process and who has been under investigation for a year.
I have a horse here that is thin, my other three are obese… The thin horse is a TERRIBLY hard keeper that i have fought with for months. Unlike PP i have 13 acres of gorgeous pasture, which they are out 24x7 on and get fed twice daily with access to wonderful hay. He is still thin, he medically checks out, his teeth are done, he’s regularly dewormed, my vet finds nothing wrong with him, he costs me a small fortune to feed, yet he is still thin and probably the same condition as the thin horses of PPs. Does that make me neglectful and an animal abuser?
Do you leave him for a week with no food and water? If not then I don’t know why you even think your example is relevant.
PPs property is NOTHING out of the ordinary for a US farm. It’s not fancy. But we’ve all been there, we’ve all had this kind of fencing at some point, we’ve all had weeds, we’ve all had mud…
Fencing? I didn’t see fencing. I saw gates tied to things in haphazard fashion. Most definitely not stock proof and certainly not horse proof.
It is not a crime to not have pretty fencing
Get real! There’s a difference between pretty and effective. Pretty is pristine and white. Effective keeps horses in and relatively safe from injury.
or some garbage laying around your storage shed.
there’s garbage and there’s crap lying about horse paddocks. There’s a difference.
Why on earth would someone not sell a horse to someone because their property is not perfect?
I wouldn’t know. I’m not that person and nothing I ever posted indicated I was. Heck I live in the real world on a farm.
I would rather sell a horse to someone that will love it than stick it in a stall and forget about it just so it can live in a prettier facility…
I’d personally rather sell one to someone who can provide food, water, shelter, turnout, fencing, attention and time.
But i’m all about horses living like horses, in the great outdoors with ice on their hair in the winter… I mean really?
And you aimed your post at me. Why? How do you think I keep mine? Clue: I do provide food, water, shelter and attention. Hint: They’re outside.
I can forgive horses getting lose because quite frankly, CRAP HAPPENS.
It happens but when it happens repeatedly and the “fencing” is just old gate posts strung together then I’d say someone is intent on terminal stupidity and not willing to learn from mistakes and their horses are likely to pay the consequences of their stupidity and neglect to properly provide.
But we’ve all been there, we’ve all had this kind of fencing at some point, we’ve all had weeds, we’ve all had mud…
Speak for yourself. I’ve never had fencing like that and I’ve never left mine with no water and no feed and without a responsible person to ensure they had what they needed.
Only 2 horses were in the round pen.
Look again and use the fingers on your hand to count 
http://www.wabi.tv/news/14726/horses-abused-neglected-in-denham
BUT it is not a crime in this country to keep a horse in a round pen.
Is it a crime to 3 that way with no food or water when you go away for a few days?
I would rather they live in a round pen than in a 10x10 stall.
Interesting options!
Frying pan or fire. Devil or the deep blue sea?!
Their feet look in great condition, which means a farrier is out there often. People who starve their horses dont get their feet done.
you are joking aren’t you? You obviously don’t know much and haven’t paid much attention to some of the cases that have been on this forum even let alone in life generally.
I really can not hold PP responsible (in my mind) for a pet sitter not showing up.
Well I’d say “it depends”
I can see this situation happening to any one of us if we had ignorant neighbors and ended up with a pet sitter we found out in the worst way we couldnt trust.
yeh right! Note: I really mean NO WAY!!
In this case, i’m glad they came so the horses have food and water.
Agreed.
I dont give one wit about the prior conviction of not having adequate shelter and of a horse getting loose. Depending on MA’s state laws it can just be a really wacky situation. I also dont feel horses need shelter. Not like they’ll use them if they have them!
You’d not do well in the UK then. Providing shelter for your horse is one of the requirements of the Animal welfare act. Likewise attending to them daily just to check they’re all still standing is also a requirement here. We also have deemed it to be a criminal offence to fail to prevent a horse from escape and such as straying on a highway. We’d say there’s negligence if you didn’t do what you could to prevent it. ie fencing! We also hold the owner as the responsible person and that includes being responsible for who might be given designated authority. Here you can’t relieve yourself of the responsibility by saying you left someone else to go check up. If inadequate arrangements are left when an owner goes on holiday then that’s construed as abandonment and not meeting the welfare needs of the horse and in more serious cases to causing suffering and neglect.
