Saddle Fitter Woes

Hi everyone! While I often read what’s going on in the forums, I don’t recall this as a topic. Understand that I am fully aware that you cannot paint any one person with a broad brush, but I was told something yesterday that now has me very curious.

Long story short, my mare has been dealing with a multitude of lameness issues over the past 2 years. After dropping a small fortune on her care and treatment, I decided I needed to have her saddle looked at to be sure it still fit her well after all this time. Normally, I would have gone to a person that I know and worked with for a few years, who is a saddle fitter and actually helped me find this saddle for her. Because of a few bad “it’s a little to coincidental” things pertaining to her, I decided to get a fresh set of eyes on it. I did not reveal the name of my fitter for a long while until I heard everything the woman had to say. (as an aside, I found her thru your great advice in the forum).

Finally, I did tell her who it was. Now the curious part: She told me of a list of folks who have gotten such bad reputations as fitters that they actually move around the country, staying a few years in an area, then going somewhere else and so forth. This happens to be the case of my old fitter.

On one hand, I know that there are a lot of disreputable business people out there in all businesses. On the other, why would well respected saddle companies allow such a person to rep their products?

Sorry to hear about your mare.

First things first: a saddle rep =/= a saddle fitter. The former sure does like to assume the duties of the latter, but they are very different. A saddle rep only has one MO: to sell you a saddle…

My personal experience is there are good and bad fitters out there… but fitting is hard, it’s a very complex process involving a lot of moving parts, and sometimes a saddle can fit on paper but not feel good for the horse – my own late gelding was an example of that.

One thing that has me sour is some saddle reps have very little knowledge; usually they complete a few hour course that is offered through a saddle company – from word of mouth it seems the majority of this course is focused on pushing the sale rather than actual knowledge about the intricacies of saddle fit.

There is a fitter local to me that for years said Devoucoux was The Name for horse comfort, and did not skimp when she told me my Stubben (or really, all Stubbens) were terrible for the horse’s back. She converted the entire barn to Devoucoux saddles… now, five years later, she’s changed her tune and is a Stubben rep and is saying all Devoucoux’s are terrible. People have such short memories.

The bottom line is no one saddle can fit all horses - some brands won’t fit most horses, some brands fit most horses, some styles won’t work for some horses, some styles of tree shape or size will… like I said, there’s a lot of variables, very little of which are static.

As an owner, I’ve spent thousands at this point reflocking my saddles and I am not entirely convinced that all of that money was well spent. I would be interested in seeing actual certification independent of the saddle company’s coursework, that touches base about actual saddle fit and how to remedy common saddle fitting issues we see in sport horses today. The MSA is a step in the right direction and I have honestly considered it for my own edification.

My experience with saddle fitters in my area has not been the most positive. My first fitter saw and reflocked my saddle 5+ times (every 6 months) before after increasingly escalating misbehavior it was revealed the saddle was the root of the problem. Changed the saddle and the horse was fantastic again. The frustrating part was this was a well known, longstanding fitter to the area who was far from a neophyte to fitting.

Had a different fitter out for a different horse who overflocked the saddle horribly, it rocked terribly when a rider was in the saddle but it looked “fine” when the horse was in motion…

Another saddle fitter I had out seemed to have all the certifications I wanted, was independent - I had her come out and look at the fit of four different saddles to pick the best one for my horse - saddle fitter came out, eyeballed them, didn’t even see the horse go undersaddle or change anything, claimed one fit perfectly, and charged me $250 (didn’t even reflock)… I was surprised with the one she picked as I thought it bridged ever so slightly…but she was the expert… I rode for three weeks in that saddle to a gradually more-sore horse, switched and the soreness went away.

I found another fitter who came well recommended and asked her to look at my brand new saddle, which I had purchased on the recommendation of a very knowledgable horse person’s eye. That fitter said the saddle fit fine, didn’t reflock it (since it was brand new it needed to settle), reflocked my dressage saddle but to me, my gelding seems worse after the adjustment.

So yeah, as an owner, count me in as someone that thinks that not all saddle fitters are created equal… and that there is a big difference between static fit (horse standing still) and “live” fit, which is how the saddle interacts with the back during motion and work…

BTW, if any saddle fitters are reading this, please come to Area 1 – we are in sore need of quality fitters here.

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Oh the stories I could tell from a saddle fitter perspective on other saddle fitter. Just know that there really is no oversight on saddle fitting and anyone one can call themselves a saddle fitter. I also caution into being very skeptical about the so called saddle fitting schools and certification. The MSA program is a prefect example. It is basically the County’s training program and it 2 weeks of actual classes. Now having said that, I know of some very good fitter that have come from that program. I think it really comes down to the individual person and what they do with the knowledge that they gain. I know also of some very good fitter that are self taught and have never taking classes. I also know of fitter that take every class that they can and still are not very good.

My husband and I were just discussing over dinner how there is no true independent training and certification program for fitters. Riddle me this: Is the proper fit of a saddle a part of horse welfare? Believe me, I am not thrilled at the idea of more big brother oversight. The bigger problem now is that there is NO oversight or regulation of this business. I could sit a cry now knowing that I put my horse in pain every time I rode. I began second guessing my ability to ride, my ability to care for my treasured mare, and be a good horseman. I TRUSTED this person. My horse TRUSTED this person.

As I said in my original post, I am not going to paint all fitters with the same brush. The situation just really ticked me off! I have no recourse against this person, as how do you really “prove” the saddle was the ONLY cause?

There’s no independent training/certification in the United States. The Society of Master Saddlers, based in the UK, has excellent and rigorous training. SMS fitters are not the only people who know what they’re doing and obviously some will be better than others, but it’s certainly a good starting place.

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