Saddle tree points

So the Ginger Ninja is a short coupled, stout little teapot of a horse. He’s fabulous in every regard, but I am having trouble finding a saddle that fits him. My research indicates a shorter tree point works well. I tried a Passier GG which I hated and he liked. What other saddles have short tree points and upswept panels? Thanks!

Prestige
Amerigo
Devoucoux
Butet

You can get pony panels on Customs and anyou of the R saddles have shorter points. I’m a big fan as shorter points fit more horses in general - one reason older saddles with short points fit so many more horses.

Harry Dabbs, Black Country Freedom Tree

Barnsby

How do you tell if something has a Freedom tree?

Unfortunately, there isn’t an easy way to tell just looking at the saddle. Almost all of their models are available on a range of trees so you order what you need, or if buying used the seller should know, or you can have your local stockist check the serial number.

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The Stubben “NT” saddles (for “New Tree”) have backwards facing tree points that are pretty accommodating - although I’m not sure how the saddles would be in general for the super stout round horses.

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http://stubbennorthamerica.com/saddle-typessizes/

Check the link above. I think the Stubben NT stands for Narrow Twist, Flat Seat and Short Points.

Tempi wold be correct. NT is “Narrow Twist” Certain models… like the Genesis CL have short points. I know this because I have one. I believe the Genesis special does as well. The CL also has half panels so very close fitting.

Actually, both are correct but @kashmere is correct about the Stubben NT saddles standing for New Tree, and she is correct because there are many reps using “NT” to signify “new tree” in correspondences. JMO they could have saved confusion by naming the new tree something besides the stunningly original moniker “New Tree”.

You see them in the Zaria Optimum mostly. You can put them in any Stubben saddle though. Trees that have the points slanting away from the shoulder rather than square ends. Very innovative and horses seem to like them.

My Stubben Aramis is an NT (as is my Zaria Optimum). The Aramis is cool because it has a more forward flap to accommodate those with a longer femur. My curvy backed, big shouldered, shark-fin-withered horse loves both of them.

It sounds like the main issue is that your horse wouldn’t donnest in a hoop tree based on your comment about shape. There are a few companies that offer that. It allows the saddle to drape around the shoulders amd not pinch or dig into the muscle. Upswept rear gussets are also an option available on many saddles. It would be helpful to see the horse in question.

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