RIDICULOUS
[QUOTE=Fairfax;7119088]
To demand a ban for equine slaughter is to forward the agenda to ban all slaughter[/QUOTE]
well said Angela
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7119176]
The reason its come down to a ban is because there was no interest in cooperation towards improving the issues, enforcing the regulations and inspections and punishment for transgressors, from the industry.
Don’t like that it is now an all or nothing option?
You have the participants at all levels of the industry to blame for that.
When you find yourself painted in a corner, and you’re holding the paint brush, it’s non-sensical to blame someone else for your situation.
Why is that so hard to understand?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Susan P;7119234]
RIDICULOUS[/QUOTE]
None is so blind that those that choose not to see: :no:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/humane-society-litigation_n_1933863.html
So glad we can keep this very important topic at the top of the page so everyone who believes horses should not be subjected to the cruel/callous treatment this industry metes out can see it!
Thanks everyone!
Bump, so everyone can see there is more to this than meets the eye, that some would rather not be talked about.:no:
[QUOTE=Fairfax;7119087]
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Then why haven’t you learned.
HSUS President Waytne is a RABID VEGAN. No employees are allowed to wear or consume animal products to work.[/QUOTE]
And I’m sure there’s a dressage rider or two who sympathizes with Al Qaeda. What’s your point? :lol:
and who is behind horse slaughter…? Rhetorical question, I already know. I don’t know why you always hijack threads about horse slaughter and always have to get the last word, and always, always have to win and put down anyone who disagrees with you. Follow the money, horse slaughter is a profitable business with liars, thieves and immoral people in the biz, just look at the auctions and feed lots and you will see it clearly.
[QUOTE=Bluey;7119150]
Short sighted.
The issue is not only who is behind the ban, of course.:rolleyes:
We are talking about a drive to BAN with ulterior motives.
There is NO COMPROMISE on a BAN, so you can’t go there.
Do look to the ulterior motives, keep your eye on the ball, not the sleigh of hand.
There is so much more at play here.
BAN horse slaughter is just a small step to further a much larger agenda.
Why is that so hard to understand?
[/QUOTE]
If it’s cruel for horses, it’s cruel for all animals. So no, I’m not objecting to slaughtering horses as I don’t object to pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, chickens, etc. I’m just as happy to keep any of those (except pigs; don’t like pigs, but I also realize they serve one purpose and one purpose only so I don’t want to get attached to a cute little piglet and then have to shoot it in the head) as a pet as I am a horse. An animal is an animal is an animal.
Also, if you sign, you better put change.org on your spam list as you will NEVER stop getting junk mail. Signed something else there and I finally had to domain-block them.
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7119161]
Lack of agreement doesn’t equal lack of understanding.
No. Over many decades this slaughter industry was run in a roughshod, cruel manner disregarding legislation that was in place to make it not so.
Common sense is realizing that when the industry ignores what the public, including the consumers, wants it may be time to do away with it altogether.
The pro-slaughter faction would do so much for their ‘slice and dice’ cause if they called on the carpet those who within their ranks were harming their cause… rather than making excuse after excuse for them, and insisting that it is only the Animal Rights people who are the problem.
The animal rights peeps wouldn’t have a toe hold if you all would make sure that things were run how you insist it can be.[/QUOTE]
Don’t waste any more minutes of your life arguing with these two trolls. There are already gigabytes of threads on COTH where people wore themselves out doing exactly that. It’s like a “knothead” horse . . . waste of time!
[QUOTE=Susan P;7119294]
and who is behind horse slaughter…? Rhetorical question, I already know. I don’t know why you always hijack threads about horse slaughter and always have to get the last word, and always, always have to win and put down anyone who disagrees with you. Follow the money, horse slaughter is a profitable business with liars, thieves and immoral people in the biz, just look at the auctions and feed lots and you will see it clearly.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious?
If anyone is hijacking threads here, on a HORSE forum, is the ones bringing animal rights extremist propaganda here.:no:
I would think this is not exactly the place that should be accepted, since those here supposedly care for and USE our horses.
We should not accept that animal rights extremist think that having and using animals, here horses, is terrible, how could we.:eek:
Doesn’t make ANY sense.
Don’t believe me?
Go read their websites, you may start with the ones against NY carriage horses for a taste of who those are.
[QUOTE=Susan P;7119294]
and who is behind horse slaughter…? Rhetorical question, I already know. I don’t know why you always hijack threads about horse slaughter and always have to get the last word, and always, always have to win and put down anyone who disagrees with you. Follow the money, horse slaughter is a profitable business with liars, thieves and immoral people in the biz, just look at the auctions and feed lots and you will see it clearly.[/QUOTE]
What she said!
Yeah, who dared to post a petition about HORSE slaughter on a HORSE forum?? The nerve!!! ROFL! From now on, everyone better only post things that I agree with or else I will post rude smilies at you!
[QUOTE=Lady Eboshi;7119297]
Don’t waste any more minutes of your life arguing with these two trolls. There are already gigabytes of threads on COTH where people wore themselves out doing exactly that. It’s like a “knothead” horse . . . waste of time![/QUOTE]
Tsk, tsk, trying to silence those bringing here the inconvenient truths about what these animal rights extremist driven agendas like BAN horse slaughter are?:no:
[QUOTE=wildlifer;7119305]
Yeah, who dared to post a petition about HORSE slaughter on a HORSE forum?? The nerve!!! ROFL! From now on, everyone better only post things that I agree with or else I will post rude smilies at you![/QUOTE]
Again, way shortsighted, because I think by now it should be obvious to anyone that there is way more behind this animal rights extremist agenda to BAN horse slaughter that meets the eye.
Just trying to educate, that’s all.
[QUOTE=Bluey;7119300]
Are you serious?
If anyone is hijacking threads here, on a HORSE forum, is the ones bringing animal rights extremist propaganda here.:no:
I would think this is not exactly the place that should be accepted, since those here supposedly care for and USE our horses.
We should not accept that animal rights extremist think that having and using animals, here horses, is terrible, how could we.:eek:
Doesn’t make ANY sense.
Don’t believe me?
Go read their websites, you may start with the ones against NY carriage horses for a taste of who those are.:([/QUOTE]
Bluey, I enjoyed riding my horse, but now that he’s not rideable, I still care for him, and enjoy having him around.
To me, his value is far more than what ‘use’ I get out of him.
I think that is what you are missing. The obvious connection between horse admirers, owner and non, who believe in humane treatment which makes it very much an appropriate topic for this forum.
Sure, COTH’ers like to ride, but I would bet most also believe in humane treatment even for those who may no longer appear ‘useful’.
What doesn’t make sense is that the relevance of this topic is not obvious to everyone. But as you say, some apparently ARE too shortsighted too see that.
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7119313]
Bluey, I enjoyed riding my horse, but now that he’s not rideable, I still care for him, and enjoy having him around.
To me, his value is far more than what ‘use’ I get out of him.
I think that is what you are missing. The obvious connection between horse admirers, owner and non, who believe in humane treatment which makes it very much an appropriate topic for this forum.
Sure, COTH’ers like to ride, but I would bet most also believe in humane treatment even for those who may no longer appear ‘useful’.
What doesn’t make sense is that the relevance of this topic is not obvious to everyone.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because some keep confusing that we do what we do the best we can do, with outright bans driven by animal rights extremist agendas out to eliminate all uses of animals?:no:
Horses aren’t machines, nor are they cows, pigs or chickens which I’ve never seen competed in the Olympics. Americans regard horses as noble creatures that not only serve us but also bond with us. They deserve to be treated as a friend, not betrayed.
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7119313]
Bluey, I enjoyed riding my horse, but now that he’s not rideable, I still care for him, and enjoy having him around.
To me, his value is far more than what ‘use’ I get out of him.
I think that is what you are missing. The obvious connection between horse admirers, owner and non, who believe in humane treatment which makes it very much an appropriate topic for this forum.
Sure, COTH’ers like to ride, but I would bet most also believe in humane treatment even for those who may no longer appear ‘useful’.
What doesn’t make sense is that the relevance of this topic is not obvious to everyone. But as you say, some apparently ARE too shortsighted too see that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Susan P;7119371]
Horses aren’t machines, nor are they cows, pigs or chickens which I’ve never seen competed in the Olympics. Americans regard horses as noble creatures that not only serve us but also bond with us. They deserve to be treated as a friend, not betrayed.[/QUOTE]
Bumping this with hysterical laughter…
:lol:
Signed. The horse slaughter industry is awful and would be more awful the more is it allowed to grow. Have absolutely no confidence that greed will not overpower the well being of horses.
[QUOTE=danceronice;7119295]
If it’s cruel for horses, it’s cruel for all animals. So no, I’m not objecting to slaughtering horses as I don’t object to pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, chickens, etc. I’m just as happy to keep any of those (except pigs; don’t like pigs, but I also realize they serve one purpose and one purpose only so I don’t want to get attached to a cute little piglet and then have to shoot it in the head) as a pet as I am a horse. An animal is an animal is an animal.
Also, if you sign, you better put change.org on your spam list as you will NEVER stop getting junk mail. Signed something else there and I finally had to domain-block them.[/QUOTE]
That is why one has dual e-mails. One for the important personal matters and one for potential spams. I r smart.
