Won’t sign any such petition. We need well-run slaughter plants in this country so horses won’t be subjected to the horrors of long-distance travel and Mexican abbatoirs.
Horses are NOT always purpose-bred. There are too many sad cases of mares who got pregnant “somehow” who then bear foals that no one has a use for. If the random breeding of useless horses could be curbed, there’s half your battle regarding horse slaughter. There would be fewer unwanted, useless horses…
Who is anyone to decide that horses are sacred and not to be killed for consumption? A horse is an animal. Livestock. I don’t believe anyone has the right to elevate a horse above say a cow, pig or goat. Horses are still being slaughtered, except now they have to endure an even longer ride and are subject to handling at facilities completely out of US jurisdiction. Not an improvement.
I believe making slaughter more humane is the best option. The captive bolt gun is horrific and not effective. How can we make slaughter no more stressful than euthanasia? An easy end. The technology has to be out there.
[QUOTE=sunridge1;7120402]
That would be EXTREMISTS. They are extremists. It is said people hate the very people that resemble themselves…Something to think about, perhaps.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Same sh…er, thread, different day. Not a single sentence can go by without the frenzy.
Honestly, many of us are well-educated adults who are capable and even trained in methodical research, review, and consideration of issues prior to decision making. If everyone’s opinion could be swayed by semi-coherent interwebz rants, well, dang, I could have world mind control!!! Srsly.
But please, carry on with the journey over the particular Mobius strip.
[QUOTE=Kyzteke;7120149]
Well, not only will I NOT sign it, I’ll fight it with everything I’ve got.
Banning slaughter in the US did more harm to horses in the country (and still is) than anything else we could come up with.
And that’s what happens when pro horse people or people who really know let un-educated bleeding hearts take control of the system because they are afraid to speak out.
Honestly – I don’t know ONE qualified pro who supported this ban…
No one makes you sent you horse to slaughter, do they? And no one is stopping you from buying as many horses as you can feed out of the kill pen. But people will always find a way to get around the rules…like they are doing now.
Instead of a (relatively) short trip and a (relatively) quick death, now these unwanted horses get to be hauled all the way to Canada (if they are lucky). The unlucky ones go to Mexico where they are killed by stabbing.
Good job America!!!:mad::rolleyes: I bet you are sitting home thinking you did a good thing…HAH!
A FAR better and (less expensive) solution would have been to pass a bill increasing the funding for inspections both at the plant(s) and regarding transport (where most of the abuse takes place).
Because the fact of the matter is that, if we can’t find homes for the millions of cats & dogs put to sleep here, why in heaven’s name do we think we can find homes for the some 100,000 unwanted horses we have every year.
Folks are wearing blinders…
Next time the people to are involved deeply in the horse industry need to grow a pair and fight back…I hope we’ve learned our lesson on this…[/QUOTE]
When exactly did the horses in the US have shorter trips with the 3 SH open? There were horses regularly shipped from Sugarcreek and New Holland to Dallas Crowne, and MEXICO, when IL was closer. Last yr, horses were shipped from WI to MEX, (and dumped at the border when rejected), when Canada was closer.
Shippers do not ship to where is necessarily closest.
Plus we had numerous shipping/handling violations, (and the fines are still unpaid, and the owners/operators have never been suspended for those violations or unpaid fines.
It will cost US taxpayers over 5 million a yr to fund horse SH inspectors. That money would be better spent on gelding clinics, funding training for AC officers, funding hay banks, and funding enforcement for animal abuse/neglect cases.
And we shipped thousands of horses to Mex and Canada when we had SH here…
[QUOTE=wildlifer;7120531]
Yep. Same sh…er, thread, different day. Not a single sentence can go by without the frenzy.
Honestly, many of us are well-educated adults who are capable and even trained in methodical research, review, and consideration of issues prior to decision making. If everyone’s opinion could be swayed by semi-coherent interwebz rants, well, dang, I could have world mind control!!! Srsly.
But please, carry on with the journey over the particular Mobius strip.[/QUOTE]
We went thru the same in 2007, when animal rights extremists finally got the inspectors defunded and so the plants closed.
Same again, animal rights extremist back at it, giving it another good try.
This time maybe they will get slaughter banned, maybe not.
They have thrown enough resources at this the past few years, I expect they think this time they have a better chance than last time.
They won’t make the same mistakes, they have covered their behinds.
They have all those “action alerts” and are using the internet better to whip followers into a frenzy to do their leg work for them, like we see here with bringing those petitions out.
Guess that, like the last time, we will keep informing all that want to listen how this game is being played and why, then let the chips fall where they may, right?
[QUOTE=Eventer55;7119611]
I know, lets ban the irresponsible breeding practices that contribute to the slaughter. Including the feral horses out west. :)[/QUOTE]I agree. Since the breed registries show registrations are down 20 to 30 percent it must be the grade horses who are breeding irresponsibly. Outlaw breeding unregistered horses. Of course this will eliminate many of the so-called “warmbloods” which are being bred.
[QUOTE=wonderhorseguy;7120677]
I agree. Since the breed registries show registrations are down 20 to 30 percent it must be the grade horses who are breeding irresponsibly. Outlaw breeding unregistered horses. Of course this will eliminate many of the so-called “warmbloods” which are being bred.[/QUOTE]
All you have to do is go to the sporthorse breeding forum. A few are breeders who know what they’re doing. A few.
A warmblood is a designer mutt. :winkgrin:
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;7120452]
Finally! You admit that I, in fact, had a solution! THANK YOU![/QUOTE]
Empty words as we discovered. You stated YOU HAD THE SOLUTION. You promised to post it…and then…like a balloon…you made a weird sound…flopped all over and went flat…stating…I DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE YOU ANY SOLUTION.
Don’t know what you are thanking me for…I just exposed you as a fibber Or Aliens stole your solution and you are waiting for themn to beam it back.
Either way…you have presented nothing.
Have you changed your opinion???
Yea that’s what I thought.
[QUOTE=Fairfax;7119087]
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Then why haven’t you learned.
HSUS President Waytne is a RABID VEGAN. No employees are allowed to wear or consume animal products to work.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JGHIRETIRE;7121457]
Have you changed your opinion???
Yea that’s what I thought.[/QUOTE]
??? Changed my opinion about what?
Vegans? I think everyone should have one as a pet
Or Wayne…I think he is as direct and truthful as a dogs hind leg
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