I just only now noticed he was pensioned… does anybody know when he was pensioned? I remember seeing his stud fee last year somewhere. It may be I am inept, it may be that I can’t google… but I couldn’t for the life of me find a website for him?
And if any have an SFS experience (him, foal, or otherwise) I’d love to hear it.
A friend of mine bought a SFS mare with 30 to 60 days OT training, for her daughter a few years ago. The daughter (teenager) has brought the mare along very easily under the guidance of a trainer. Lovely temperament, trainable. I have heard good things about them.
SFS was a favorite of mine when he was running. Not sure why he was pensioned. Honestly, it could be because he wasn’t getting sufficient books of mares to make it worthwhile as there has been an influx of very nice horses into NY.
He was pensioned in 2013 according to the Bloodhorse. He was still active in 2012, but I don’t have the report of how many mares he bred handy.
While he may have not lit the world on fire in the shed, it’s a shame to lose his sire line. I know in Kentucky for 2015, there are only 7 sire lines available out of all the stallions in state-- with 77% of the stallions being from either the ND, Mr. P, or Seattle Slew lineage. I imagine New York’s numbers don’t look all that different-- they’ve had quite the influx of KY stallions over the past several years.
Don’t get me wrong, I like those sire lines as much as the next person, but I’m also a big proponent for maintaining some level of genetic diversity.
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A friend of mine bought a SFS mare with 30 to 60 days OT training, for her daughter a few years ago. The daughter (teenager) has brought the mare along very easily under the guidance of a trainer. Lovely temperament, trainable. I have heard good things about them.
SFS was a favorite of mine when he was running. Not sure why he was pensioned. Honestly, it could be because he wasn’t getting sufficient books of mares to make it worthwhile as there has been an influx of very nice horses into NY.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Texarkana;8006800]He was pensioned in 2013 according to the Bloodhorse. He was still active in 2012, but I don’t have the report of how many mares he bred handy.
While he may have not lit the world on fire in the shed, it’s a shame to lose his sire line. I know in Kentucky for 2015, there are only 7 sire lines available out of all the stallions in state-- with 77% of the stallions being from either the ND, Mr. P, or Seattle Slew lineage. I imagine New York’s numbers don’t look all that different-- they’ve had quite the influx of KY stallions over the past several years.
Don’t get me wrong, I like those sire lines as much as the next person, but I’m also a big proponent for maintaining some level of genetic diversity.[/QUOTE]
thank you for both replies! I wonder if he wasn’t getting enough books. A shame, I really like him. (five) Of his get that I’ve seen in person, they have had very nice movement and are sensible. I have one myself.
Made me curious.
In 2012 (his last year at stud) Say Florida Sandy bred 1 mare which resulted in no live foals.
In 2011, he bred 4 mares and had 2 live foals.
In 2010, he bred 11 mares and had 4 live foals
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In 2012 (his last year at stud) Say Florida Sandy bred 1 mare which resulted in no live foals.
In 2011, he bred 4 mares and had 2 live foals.
In 2010, he bred 11 mares and had 4 live foals[/QUOTE]
Where did you get that information? I think he has a 2012 filly, if I’m not mistaken?
A shame, but he is older… 1994 model.
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Where did you get that information? I think he has a 2012 filly, if I’m not mistaken?
A shame, but he is older… 1994 model.[/QUOTE]
That would be the 2011 breeding season. 2012 breeding season would be foals of 2013.
The Jockey Club publishes those statistics every year, and they are available on their site or via Google.
Don’t know how up to date this is.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/say+florida+sandy
I also wonder why he was pensioned, but got to think he wasn’t paying the bills. Nice looking horse.
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That would be the 2011 breeding season. 2012 breeding season would be foals of 2013.
The Jockey Club publishes those statistics every year, and they are available on their site or via Google.[/QUOTE]
oh my god. blonde moment. duh a 2012 horse would be 2011 breeding… don’t know what happened there.
Shammy Davis, he’s a really nice horse. Seems to really stamp his get. All of the ones I’ve met have been dark bay and have his booty.
eta: not sure if the video you posted is him though…
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oh my god. blonde moment. duh a 2012 horse would be 2011 breeding… don’t know what happened there.
Shammy Davis, he’s a really nice horse. Seems to really stamp his get. All of the ones I’ve met have been dark bay and have his booty.
eta: not sure if the video you posted is him though…[/QUOTE]
Why don’t you think the video is of SFS?
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Why don’t you think the video is of SFS?[/QUOTE]
might want to check that link, shimmy. 
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Why don’t you think the video is of SFS?[/QUOTE]
The video is of a blood bay with socks. SFS is solid dk bay :lol: I think you may have copy/pasted the link that loads AFTER you watch SFS’s video!
Oh dear, think you are right.:eek:
Well, we could start a thread discussing the virtues of Eastern European horseracing and breeding. You know there is a farm in Lexington, Royal Pegasus, that is owned by a Eastern European investor. It’s standing typically American bloodlines though.
http://www.royalpegasusfarm.com/
I corrected the link above. I think. But let me not digress . . .:no:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4mWHo5cCw
This is Sandy[/QUOTE]
I do love his walk… I wish there was a video of the old man trotting!
http://circlef.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/2/8/8128249/4494898_orig.jpg
I am glad you brought up Say Florida Sandy. I admired him so much on the track. (but, I regret that I never sent a mare to him…)
It is tough to make a stallion in a regional market. It’s a shame, as horses like Say Florida Sandy have a lot to offer.
Perhaps some of his better daughters may carry on his lineage.
Interesting article in 2/17 TN by Mike Kane on increasing influences of NY breds.
I wonder if there might be a market for him as a sport horse sire (and doing AI instead of live cover)? I’ve heard a lot of good things about his offspring being used as riding horses and show horses.
Mike is a friend of mine and a very knowledgeable writer. Do you have a link?
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