Scoot boots vs Renegades

Has anyone tried both, and have a strong preference either way?

I am happy enough with Renegades, though maresy does wear them out faster than normal. I do have to rasp between trims because they don’t fit if the hoof grows. The fit and stability is just fine until about week 4 of the trim cycle.

I saw Scoot Boots on a horse this weekend and looked them up online.

I like the design.

The promo video says they fit through the whole trim cycle and never slip or turn or come off.

I’m not sure how this could be 100 % possible.

Has anyone used them? Especially has anyone tried both them and Renegades?

That claim applies only if your horse a trim they consider proper and a hoof the size and shape that works for their boots.

Like all hoof boots, it truly depends on the horse’s hoof shape.

Contact the company to see if they will work for your horse’s hoof shape. They get rave reviews by trail riders on a FB page I’m on. So do Renegades, but Scoot Boots seem to be even more popular.

There’s another rider at our barn switching from Renegades to Scoot Boots for the reasons you mentioned.

I just bought Scoot Boots. The measurement photos I sent were the day she was trimmed, by the time I bought/received the boots it was four weeks later.

Used them on a two hour trail ride in the hills, they worked great. Didn’t seem to have any fit issues and they stayed in place.

Scoot Boots are much easier to put on than Renegades. Since they are new I don’t know how well they’ll hold up in the long run. They also have great traction, I was surprised how well they gripped the slippery rocks. Much better than when she was wearing shoes.

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I don’t find Renegades difficult to put on. Slip on, do up two Velcro straps.

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I have a pair of renegades that I used for years trail riding on one of my horses after I pulled hind shoes when he was done being a show horse, they held up really well on our Georgia mountain trails which can be more narrow ravine than actual trail in some places, so they get 2 thumbs up for really resisting twisting (I did have to adapt them to his hind foot with vettec and some dremel work though). Then I used them to transition another horse to barefoot up front (he was fully retired so just used for turn out to give him a break from barefoot every other day or so) and they worked like a charm. But that velcro does wear out and the little rubber keepers were kind of a pain…

So when it was time to get a new pair of boots for the fjord because of course his 14’1 fjord feet are much bigger than a 16’3’ TB’s foot, I opted to try the scoots. They haven’t had much use yet because I really only bought them to do trot road work up and down the gravel road when it is time to build fitness, but I tried them out on a 6 mile trail ride (mostly walking) on one of the mountain trails with mud and water and a few other times down the road just to test them out trotting and so far I’m a fan although I need a few more hard trail rides to really know how I feel about them (when I use then it will be for driving, and it is considerably harder to fix boot issues when you need to get out of the carriage versus hop off the horse).

I do not think of renegades as hard to put on, but these are a tad faster. Not easier but definitely faster (pulling the strap over the button is one of the things I find mildly difficult based on an old right hand/thumb injury, but I think most people would be fine). They come with some replacement straps and I bought a pack of the colored ones so I’ve got quite a few extra screws and straps in case anything breaks.

I could see how horses on a 5 week cycle could probably wear then with minimal slippage if you measured them at the midpoint in the cycle, that strap has some give in it, so it might be a bit harder to pull over the button at the end, but it would be pretty secure. Or at least that is how it seems to work on my guy. But full disclosure, as a barefoot fjord he pretty much has textbook perfect hoof shape.

My mare has good bare feet, very round. But if she is wearing boots her hooves don’t get natural wear and can be long enough to interfere with the Renegades by week 4.

I too have a bad right thumb, arthritis and old sprains probably. If the scoots are a tug that could be an issue. The Renegade Velcro is easy to grasp and doesn’t need to be that tight. You don’t need to get an actual hole over a button.

in my case it is less arthritis and more that I attempted to remove my thumb a few years ago, the good news is (in the words of the surgeon) it’s attached… but grabbing something between my index finger and thumb and holding on to it is one of the things I find tricky sometimes (and the down on the ground part makes it trickier and harder to leverage with the rest of my arm). It’s not that hard of a tug, just one of the (surprisingly few) things I have trouble with.

I have a client with the Scoot Boots, and I have the Renegades. I like them both, but we have found that the Scoot Boots took more practice for her to put on, and were harder to put on in the winter (when the plastic was cold/slippery). She had to move her horse to a 5 week trim cycle to keep them easy to put on because one foot tends to flare a bit.

But…I like the simple design a lot, and I would consider the Scoot boots for a future purchase as it does seem like they might last a bit better.

I’ve had both. I used Renegades for years on multiple horses and bought a pair of Scoots a few years ago for my young mare.

I liked the the no velcro design, but had two significant issues with the Scoots.

  1. The Chicago screw on one boot came undone within the first few rides.

  2. The pastern strap broke with very light use.

In addition, the “sidewall” bent and broke and the bottom tread wore extremely quickly compared to Renegades.

Scoots are likely more forgiving between trims, but these issues put me off buying another pair.

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OK, the wear issue would be a deal breaker for me. Maresy chews through her Renegades within a year of moderate use and they turn into open toed sandals not boots. They are still usable, until so much breaks away the wires are exposed! If Scoots are less sturdy than Renegades that would not work!

I’ve found out you can buy replacement feet parts for Renegades and then transfer all the perfectly good straps and cables off the worn out pair. This isn’t advertised on the website and I haven’t got a price yet from them. I’m on my 3rd pair of Renegades so would be good to renovate the really trashed pair.

Hmm, don’t like the sound of that. These boots aren’t cheap.

Just found out mine are the wrong size. I sent a picture of them on my horse and they said she needs a size 1, not 2. Apparently I measured her hooves incorrectly, they only noticed when they took a second look at the original pictures. I don’t know if they’re going to replace the boots since I rode in them once, or if I have to buy a second pair.

Another boarder at my barn had her pictures sent back because she also took incorrect pictures. Not happy they didn’t catch that the first time with me.

It turns out that Scoot Boots sent the wrong size, a 4 instead of a 2. I told them I wanted to send to exchange it for a 2, but they’ve ignored my request. They did ask for another set of photos, done correctly this time. I’m going to be angry if they don’t exchange.

I have both and prefer my Scoots. Both are great. My Scoots probably have several hundred miles and show no wear on rock and gravel. We were camping this weekend, and both boots worked well most of the time, but people lost both Scoots and Renegades in hock deep mud. Strangely enough, the Gloves were the only boots that never came off - not how they worked for me! Scoots are super easy to put on. You can pull the strap with a hoof pick, if it’s hard on your hands. I hate the wires and adjusting with Renegades, but they are otherwise great boots.

I have both. Well, should say I did have both but tomorrow I ship out the last of my Renegades - sold to a new owner out west. I am only using Scoot boots now, so the Renegades were just taking up space.

Why the change? Well, I started with Gloves which were fine for the carriage driving ponies but sucked for riding and Endurance training. They came off at the drop of any stressful work, and the gaiters sucked because they ripped so easily. Then I moved to Renegades, liked them so much more, and ended up with 4 sets. Used them hard for Endurance conditioning, but still shod for Endurance because the Renegades weren’t trustworthy to stay on when used on the OD trails. Will say the horse always moved beautifully in the Renegades.

After a few years I was tired of the Velcro giving way, tired of worrying about when the next set of cables would break (which they did at the worst possible time - once while climbing up a mountain (both boots!!!), twisting, debris being caught up in the toe area, and being more apt to be flung off at speeds once they softened with age. They were noisy but tough, and I think the sole was more resiliant than the Scoots. Trim cycle didn’t seem to matter to the boot fit unless the trim was way overdue. Horses moved nicely in them. Renegades didn’t come in a small size for the driving ponies, however. That was a negative to buying more of them.

When Scoots came along I was interested, but didn’t get a pair until the following year. Fell in love with them instantly, and now have full sets for all three of my ponies and for my endurance horse. (Which equates to about $370 per equine, so you do the math as to my investment). I love the colors, the choice of sizes (all the way down to 000 for my 13h driving pony), choice of fits (regular or slim) the wide open design that lets air/water out, EASY to put on and take off, NO CABLES, NO WIRES, NO VELCRO. Changing over the toe tabs to colorful ones is a breeze, as is the pastern strap. You can “modify” the fit with shims, and their breakover at the toe is excellent. I have found the sole does transmit a bit more of the harshness of the ground if the horse is freshly trimmed short, so I have started using rim pads inside the boot (at least for a week after I trim) to lift the foot slightly - which works perfectly. ALL my horses and ponies moved beautifully in these boots. I also have their Skins which are a glue on. LOVE THEM!!! The first pair I glued on (front feet only) stayed on 10 weeks, and my mare’s feet looked fabulous when I finally took them off because she was overdue for a trim. Again, the open air design allowed her foot to remain healthy as well as fully protected. PLUS the glue ons can be cleaned and reused again (let me tell you it was a major PITA getting the boots off the foot first - that glue was NOT about to release from her hoof wall without a fight, even after 10 weeks - then dremmeling the old super hard glue out of the shell, but at least it can be reused again unlike all the other glue on boots out there. And at $80 a pop for a pair, you can beat your sweet petunia I’m going to reuse them more than once). The strap ons sometimes are a touch noisy at times on the roads (they can slap at times) but not nearly as much as the Renegades which REALLY slap 100% of the time due to their design.

Regarding wear on the boot sole - I’d say both Scoots and Renegades are about equal. Surface factors play a lot into wear, and mine are mostly driving/ridden on gravel roads, so wear is accelerated over someone who rides just grassy fields and arena work.

After 40 years of doing my own farrier work, I no longer want to swing a hammer and draw nails (even when a damaged rotator cuff and an aging back allows me to do so) except when absolutely necessary. Trimming my gang of four is enough work for my back and shoulder to handle as it is, but at least I can pick away at it weekly without it becoming a major deal every 6-8 weeks. So I’m vested in finding the best alternatives to hoof protection for my horses and ponies who are used a fair amount recreationally under saddle and in harness - and right now the Scoot boots (both strap on and glue ons) are top on my list.

Would I use a boot on the OD trail? That trail is rock hell, so I’d only do the glue ons, not the strap ons. There was one rider last year at one of the OD rides that did have the strap on Scoots (on front?) AND the Renegades (on back?) and she did great. But she went very slowly. On a flat ride I’d happily use either in a heartbeat, but would opt for the Scoots over the Renegades because of ease, simplicity, promoting excellent movement, and ability to stay on better due to more options of specialized fitting to the hoof.

Hope this helps.

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Malda - what is the name of the sales distributor you used? My distributor is fantastic - very happy to accomodate a buyer’s needs, and super friendly. I’ll PM their name if you’d like.

Yeah, I bought all the replacement parts for my Renegades. The cable was not cheap, either, nor were the pulley buttons. When I got all that “stuff” for the necessary replacement, I simply handed my boots to my adult son with the comment “do these for me because I don’t want to”. Changing the cables was a PITA (he said). Cleaning the Velcro after rides (for me) was a PITA. Having the Velcro come undone during rides was a PITA. Having the Renegades fling off at a power trot up the mountain was a PITA. Walking back to find and retrieve the boot(s) was a PITA.

Glad they can be someone else’s PITA now.

You need to get a pair of Scoots to see if they will work for you and your horse. No other way to judge, honestly speaking.

I can’t help but laugh… My 14’1 driving pony? Size SIX scoots. :lol::lol::lol:

My 14.1h Welsh B riding gelding wears #2 Scoots (regular in front, Slims behind). 13.1 1/2h Welsh B pairs driving gelding wears #0 up front and #00 behind, 13h Welsh B pairs driving mare wears #000 up front (with shims, too!) and #00 Gloves behind. My ponies are all over the size scales. Can NOT imagine a #6 Scoot on my dainty Welsh ponies. They would fit all 4 feet in one #6 boot!

My 16.1 Friesian Sport Horse is a 5 or 6. That’s crazy! Those are some large pony feet.