Seeking advice on neighbor with off-leash dogs

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Is your neighborhood part of an HOA? If so, I would check the bylaws around dogs and if there is anyway to have them try and enforce a leash with this neighbor. I live in an HOA and it’s required that all dogs be leashed, among other things.

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I hope this helps. I have lived in 3 different HOA communities and they all acted differently. One would have been all over your neighbor about it whether or not the dog was well behaved or not :crazy_face:

I’m curious about how these things work. We moved into our new house in November and the bylaws state that pitbulls and a couple other breeds are not allowed. There are several pitbulls that live here so I can’t tell how they would enforce something like that or if they even bother. I think there is a 2 pet limit as well and there is at least one house that has three dogs :woman_shrugging:

If they won’t do anything, at least you have it documented that you went to them about it as a first approach. I would hope giving the nipping occurrences, they would take it more seriously but logic doesn’t always prevail.

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I’d go straight to animal control. No point in talking to your neighbor–you tried that multiple times and it didn’t work.

I had to deal with a very similar situation just last week. A neighbor’s dogs were coming onto our property and attacking my dog. Our property is 52 acres, and the neighbor’s house is on the far side from our house and barns. These dogs came all the way across 3 fields and attacked our dog while she was with me back at our barn. I talked to the neighbors and told them what had happened. She wasn’t rude, but she wasn’t sorry either, and she didn’t seem to be taking it seriously. Anyway, two days later the same thing happened–her dogs came all the way across 50 acres and attacked my dog again while she was with me at our barn. This time the dogs didn’t leave when I yelled at them, so I had to hit them with a bucket (the only thing handy) to get them off my dog. And then they started snarling and snapping at me. They finally ran off, and I chased them all the way home, so mad I was in flames. The dogs’ owners weren’t home, which was probably just as well because I was incoherent with rage.

The next day I went to the sheriff’s office and filed a complaint. I wanted to start documenting the problem, and I hoped a visit from the sheriff might get the owners’ attention. Within 30 minutes of filing that complaint a deputy came to my house to get my side of the story, then he went and talked to the neighbors. I haven’t seen or heard those dogs since. The deputy at the sheriff’s office and the deputy who came to my house both told me the same thing–I have every right to defend my property “whatever it takes.”

@FitzRoy, dogs that approach people and “nip” are being aggressive, and you are not required to tolerate it. It may be just a matter of time before a nip turns into a bite, so best to put a stop to this now. File a complaint with animal control. And maybe keep an electric cattle prod handy, just in case. Don’t feel guilty and don’t worry about what everybody else thinks. I’m pretty sure the owners of the dogs that were attacking my dog think I’m a very nasty b**** but I don’t care. I can go back to my barn without being bothered and those dogs are still alive.

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If the dogs were to be taken away, potentially upsetting the children in the household, the onus for that would be completely on the dog owner, not you. Those dogs need to be on a leash, period. If you can, get photo/video evidence of them running around unattended. You said there have only been “nips” so far, but a nip is still an act of aggression (in this context) and should be treated like a bite. What happens if the dog goes after someone else while on your property and the person is injured? Who is liable in that situation? You, or the dog owner?

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The cattle prod is genius!

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Or a can of wasp spray! I’m a dog lover/owner. A nip is a bite - no need to sugar coat it. A multiple offender who bites ME on MY property won’t be going home a happy camper. Sorry!

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THIS!

A dog has repeatedly put its teeth on people in your yard and the owner has done nothing about it. I, too, would be calling animal control and the local police to make a report. I would also go find myself a super soaker and put a mixture of vinegar and water into it and have it with me at all times in the yard. A shot of that should give the dog something to think about without doing any actual damage (and honestly, I would be hard pressed not to use it on the dog’s owner as well).

I hope the owner HAS put them in training, for the sake of the dogs.

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I kind of agree that it’s easier to train the dogs. Apparently you’re starting to make an impression if Dumb Owner is putting her dogs into training to protect them from you! lol

I’d have a good quiet weapon at the ready when you go out until you get a few chances to use it. When a neighbor’s two labs attacked my chi in our yard I happened to have a plastic bag with cans of soup in it, as we were just returning from the grocery store. It became an instant prison weapon, I landed several good thwacks and ran them off, and they never came back. They were also older, fat and not real committed trouble makers so that was the end of it.

There are dog zappers, squirt gun with lemon water or some such, etc. I’d hesitate on wasp spray b/c TBH I wouldn’t really want to do serious damage to a dog that sounds like if you gave it a good kick or thwack would probably just avoid coming back again. Says me, projecting from way over here not knowing or actually seeing the actual situation. YMMV

Loose dogs I swear it’s an epidemic. I have them in my yard often, sometimes I haul them to the Sheriff’s Office as strays and sometimes they get a rock tossed at them and run off.

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You have the right to enjoy your own property without fear. Report the dogs.

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I’d call AC and would have no regrets about it. I just had to do this with a new-ish neighbor that kept letting their dogs run loose - we’d talked to them several times and they knew we were pretty fed up. The last straw was the day the dog was chasing my horses in their paddocks and the dog owner told me he was being “too friendly.” No, he was being an asshole, my horse had been hurt once already on a previous “friendly” chase, so I called AC that day. No dogs over here since. I hate having to call and be seen as the neighborhood jerk, but really the people who don’t/won’t control their dogs are the jerks.

With the situation you have described, I’d also be very concerned about the liability you have for injuries to people on your property. Not your dog, sure, but you know it is a recurring issue, and if someone gets hurt on your place, you better believe they’ll go after you/your insurance as much as the dog owner.

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Maybe you should get one of these.

The noise alone might deter the dogs from venturing onto your property.

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Oh that is rich!
She should have trained her dogs in the first place! Some people
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I agree with those who said you should report the dogs. AND have a “weapon” ready when they come into your yard. I have used a plastic gun with water+ lemon juice with good results before, on a barking / nipping Chow mix (not my dog). The zapper racket sounds good too :wink:

I’m sorry you are in this situation. It sucks to have neighbor problems.

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There are also motion activated water sprayers/sprinklers on Amazon fairly cheap. I’ve been looking into them due to my neighbor’s 200lb intact mastiff tearing things up here, chasing the barn cats, peeing all over everything (including my front door), and making a general nuisance of himself.

I don’t get people.

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Yes, report the dogs.

I strongly suspect all the neighbors who have tolerated this obnoxious behavior for the sake of neighborhood harmony will be delighted someone else called AC. Yes, of course, you’ll be the scapegoat, but I promise you, your neighbors will be relieved someone finally took action.

Favorite story about my ex (not the reason he became ex.) We had a problem dog in the neighborhood, a husky or malamute with a very high prey drive and some previously reported dog and cat aggression issues. We had a new puppy. Husky came after the puppy in our yard while running loose. We reported it. Agricultural county, severely understaffed animal control, gave us chapter and verse over our right to defend our pets and livestock on our property, and to please do so - because the offending animal was always safely back home by the time he arrived.

Neighbor’s solution is to get up earlier to let his dog run loose, not realizing we were also early risers.

Ex is out in the yard with our dog early one AM when the husky starts stalking it. Ex is screaming at the husky, while training a shotgun on it, waiting for the husky to cross our property line. Owner of husky runs up the street and confronts robe wearing, shotgun holding ex, saying “He won’t hurt anybody!” Ex lowers shotgun, says “I know. Because I won’t give him a chance.”

Didn’t have a problem with the dog after that.

Not suggesting that you go all vigilante on your clueless neighbor, but people are really, really stupid and tunnel visioned about their own dogs. Get Animal Control involved.

The last time we dealt with a loose aggressive dog, multiple people in the neighborhood had run-ins with it, BUT no one had reported them because they didn’t want to make waves with the neighbors. So the dog that had at least 4 legitimate incidences of attacking people didn’t come to AC’s notice until the 5th time.

Report the dogs.

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Report the dogs. This is an issue for animal control or the police (if they are the same) not a HOA. Health and safety, which this is, are not things for HOA’s, they are things for animal control and the government. We tend to forget this.
Meanwhile, have a good solid weapon to hand. And when the dogs show up? Go after them first, right to the edge of the property line. You don’t have to hit them, but they cross onto your lawn? You start snarling, being ‘big’ and otherwise think offense not defense. (I might not suggest this approach with a truly aggressive dog, but with these it sounds like it might work)

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I would definitely call animal control. I hope your MIL isn’t too terrorized. Fear of dogs is very real.

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I agree with McGurk. When I told another neighbor that I had filed a complaint with the sheriff about the aggressive dogs she told me those dogs had also been harassing them. It’s a pretty safe bet that FitzRoy’s neighbors have had problems with the unleashed dogs as well.

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I agree, call AC and/or the police department. The neighbor has already shown you they aren’t interested in solving the problem. Solving it will be up to you.

We had neighbors many years ago who let their dogs run loose. They started chasing cattle. They were warned repeatedly that it was occurring. The sheriff was called multiple times. They refused to believe it/keep the dogs at home. So there just wasn’t any other choice. SSS was put into effect.

Obviously, you probably don’t want to go that far, but a Super Soaker, maybe even a paintball gun? Those things hurt, and the owner will hate having to wash off the paint. I used a lunge whip on another neighbor’s dogs who were chasing my cats one day - I had nothing else to hand, and those dogs STILL run if they see me! I don’t mind dogs necessarily, but I don’t tolerate them on my property, endangering my animals.

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Being nice didn’t work, call animal control any time these animals are off leash, and any time they are on your property, take photos or videos, hopefully with time stamps. The HOA wouldn’t be a route I would take, because they don’t enforce much, and all of them are friendly with the neglectful owner of the offending dogs, and their dogs are roaming too.

Also, you need to be hypervigilant when the MIL is visiting, one fall can be fatal.

For the record, even if the owner has to get rid of the dogs, it’s her fault, not yours, and if her kids lose the dogs, it’s her fault. However, I bet no matter how many people say they don’t like the dogs’ aggression, I bet there will still be blowback against you when animal control acts.

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