No but I like it : ) As in sucker mom got bamboozled? HAHAHA
yeah that was what i was thinking too
to deceive by underhanded methods : DUPE, HOODWINKI got bamboozled by the salesperson to buy a more expensive model.
2: to confuse, frustrate, or throw off thoroughly or completely
I’m a huge softy when it comes to kids and animals, put them together and forget it!
horses and kids are a good fit
I was regional youth direct by in the 1990s. Wife and I ended up on an advisory board to the USDA that rewrote much of the 4H equine program, we changed the beginning levels to follow much of the Morgan Youth Club which allowed youth who did not own or lease a horse to participate. Afterwards I ended up on a US Forest Service advisory board working on development of the LBJ Grasslands
daughter on her pony with friends in our backyard
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This is great! Good for you! However, I highly recommend you get this latest agreement in writing.
Tell the owner to come with a trailer not a trainer. Wipe your hands clean of this bad deal.
I can come at you like a caged animal when folks try and take advantage of me these days. OP, I am furious for you.
Here’s my solution: Stop paying trainer & board.
Done.
Not your pony. Not your problem. And you won’t have lost a friendship, because pony owner was never a ‘friend’ in the first place. What she is, is a user.
I assume your barn’s “trainer” knows full well who pony owner is. Let them pursue HER for any payments. And sit back and watch how fast that situation changes.
I’m sorry to say, OP but you’re being played as a sucker in this case and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least that the trainer and pony’s actual owner are in cahoots over this.
Wow Clanter, ear torturing, three wiggling (probably giggling) kids on his back, and your Morgan is still as a statue and manages to look like he is posing for a model class.
Was he from a certain line that made him good with kids?
Good for you for standing up for yourself. Unlike a couple others, I agree that a 30 day notice to end the lease is reasonable, and gives your friend the time to figure out what to do with the pony and make other arrangements. The original lease, while it may not be in writing, giving your friend 30 days notice is a reasonable courtesy.
And as someone who has sadly tried out two ponies for my 10 year old, actually I purchased them after a short trial, and finding out they weren’t a good fit, it sucks. It was hard for my daughter but a good lesson learned and a heavy dose of reality. I do know that when we are ready to look for another horse for my daughter to ride, you bet your bottom dollar I will be doing a lease instead if having to deal with the sale of another.
Great news. But do that TODAY. And get it in writing or at least in text and SAVE that text msg. Don’t let it drag out one second over 30 days from today but let her know she can take it back earlier if she wants.
back date the notice a few weeks or maybe a month
My wife and I both worked with several breeds of horses before we met, so we knew several breeds we did not want for kids … when we started looking for “a horse for the kids” we were looking for either a Connemara or a old line Morgan.
The one we bought is a Morgan
I hear you! This has been/is expensive! I’m thinking several YEARS of lessons and part leasing before we commit again!
What should be done if the pony is not picked up or if a new board arrangement is not made by the owner by the end of the notice period?
Granted, I can’t recall the nuances of your situation, but from what I recall you are not the owner of the pony. Pony’s owner knows where it is. Barn owner knows pony owner, yes? You theoretically terminated your relationship with PO and BO when you gave notice that your’e no longer boarding there. Not your problem if PO doesn’t pick up pony.
It’s up to BO to go after PO to collect any funds or keep pony, or auction it off if PO doesn’t take pony back. But I’m not a lawyer and I’m sure those who know equine law will correct me if I"m wrong.
My advice, is walk away and put BO and PO on block.
I board my other horses with same BO so can’t just walk away. PO is reasonable so far but has made no plans to move pony yet. PO is just trying to sell as quick as possible for the most amount of money. Just having anxiety about the whole thing and looking ahead in case I need to change plans.
You tell the PO/ “friend” you are done with the lease. Did you give 30 day notice that you are done with the lease? What was the discussion you had with the PO? Like I said before you needed to have the PO come with a trailer and pick her pony up. PO is being a jerk. Did you have a lease contract?
You should let the PO and BO handle it from here on out. Be stern and let the PO you are and have been done.
As long as you have your 30 day notice to PO in writing and an acknowledgement from the PO of that notice in writing (email thread, text messages. etc.), that can be given to BO as verification that the pony is not your responsibility after X date any more, then there is nothing to worry about. I know this is a friend of yours, but you aren’t responsible for their life’s setbacks and money issues and its not your responsibility to fix them.
When I was training and teaching kids to ride, many of our students would fall in love with “their” school horse and buy them. There were no ugly surprises because the kids knew the horses well. Usually, the kids would continue to take lessons and board their horses with us, so it was a win/win situation. Get your daughter into a good lesson plan where she rides at least 2/3 times a week and see what happens.
IMO she would do a lot better in a lesson plan than leasing. If you lease a horse you are stuck with them and their iffy habits. This way your daughter can learn to ride on different horses. She will learn a lot that way. With a lease, you have part of the expenses/responsibility of horse ownership. You don’t need that!
Find a way to make this period of your family’s life with horses fun!
Whatever you do with the current owner of the pony, get it in writing!!!
All best to you and your daughter and your future horses…
I’d send the pony back to them on my own dime. Probably cheaper than another month of board.