Should he run?

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/237558/champion-stormy-liberal-retired-to-old-friends

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/two-time-breeders-cup-winner-stormy-liberal-retired-to-old-friends/

As it should be :applause:

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WOW! I think that he Bitc% slapped the trainer pretty well. “Previously undiagnosed” might as well say- “hey, the trainer didn’t care”…

Except that the trainer did care. He was saying very adamantly and publicly that the horse should be retired.

The exact diagnosis isn’t as important as the fact that the trainer wanted him to stop racing.

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That was my take on the situation as well. The trainer and previous co-owner were proven to be right in wanting the horse to retire.

There’s a right way and a wrong way for a trainer to handle this sort of situation. Publicly trashing an owner demonstrates a distinct lack of character.

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I agree with you! But this guy just bludgeoned that fellow publicly. And that’s nasty

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Lack of character? Pete Miller? You must be joking…

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Actually the horse is sound enough to continue to race as long as he got a 6-8 month rest to let the ankles settle down. Not an unsurprising find in a horse his age. I think he’s been well managed and given breaks throughout his career to which he responded well. It’s possible he’s not running as hard because he’s protecting himself and would need to drop to continue to win. Kudos to the connections for retiring him. He’s done plenty.

Just curious… you know this how??? Haven’t seen this mentioned in any of the articles I’ve read…

“This was conducted this past Monday, and Mr. Scanlon and the primary veterinarian saw an irregularity that did not show up on X-rays or in the initial exam, and they decided to go one step further with an MRI on both ankles.”

Stormy liberal was found to have “full thickness cartilage defects on the palmar (back) aspect of the medial condyles in both front fetlocks.” The lesions were determined to be a potential threat to the gelding’s soundness, and a period of six to eight months’ rest from training was suggested."

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac…to-old-friends

It’s probably what one would expect on a horse of his age and mileage, although most horses would not proceed to have a “nuke scan” done or MRIs of both ankles done when the xrays don’t show anything conclusive.

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Well, as I read it, the clinic disclosed MRI findings and a “ 6-8 months period of rest was recommended” That was what the Blood Horse article said. Apparently all the other scans did not show any abnormalities.

Regardless, this ended well for the horse. Hopefully he gets to enter retirement in Florida and ship North after the weather starts warming at least a little bit.

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LOL, this frigid air will be great for those ankles. It’d be like an ice bath.

Um…notsomuch. Try again! :winkgrin:

Standing in cold mud always reduced any swellings in my horses feet. Not much ice or snow in Lex right now but really cold mud we got. Why argue with PB on every detail? Or Do you just want to,look like you had the last word in a cyber squabble?

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You’re talking about standing in cold mud, like a big old mud poultice, only it’s everywhere? And it “reduces the swellings in your horses FEET”? OK. She’s talking about the wind blowing around a horse’s legs, and being good for ankles. Show me how that works.

I guess you have to do it for a couple decades or so to understand. But mostly it’s just giving them time off in a pasture to move about at will and within their comfort level.

How many decades? Pretty sure I qualify. And letting horses decompress is a very good thing. But your post implied that it needed to be when it was very very cold to be most useful for those ankles :lol:

That Hasn’t been my experience in the decades I’ve been doing this.

Yes, the frigid temps do help tighten them up.

Don’t sweat it (pun intended); it’s just another one of those with peripheral connections to racing trying to flex something or other.