Show Jumping Olympic Short List 2024

[skydy]

@Demerara_Stables

Lastly, he’s not a pro. So why the self promotion other than he’s trying to get on the team and just wants to get more popular?

As has been posted above, he is a “pro”. I don’t see why anyone would care if he was listed as an amateur or a professional.
He’s doing very well at the 1.5 and 1.6 Grand Prix, nationally and internationally. He is 29th in the FEI rankings, which is nothing to sneeze at.
When a person rides at that level it is almost impossible to remain an amateur under USEF rules.

There are many people in the U.S. who call themselves professionals who have much less experience, and have never jumped close to that level.

I think he would be a good choice for the team. I don’t follow any riders social media, so I have no opinions about their personalities. I care about their competition records.

[SlamDunk]

Ok for this year

Karl and Caracole are a 67% clear at 1.60m with an average of 1 fault

McLain and Callas climb to 50 % clear and 1.8 faults

Jessica and Don goes down to 25 % clear and 3.8 average faults *although this isn’t capturing their great rounds at Geneva in the late fall

Laura and Ballountine are at 50% clear 1 fault average

Kent and Greya 44% clear 1.8 average faults

One thing I’ll note is that other than Ballountine and Don none of these horses have 1.65m courses under their belt which is why from a selection standpoint it would be kind of nice to see them jump at Aachen.

And just for comparison King Edward and Henrik have 71% clear round rate at 1.65m and .8 faults (and they are arguably the best combination in the world)

[kenyarider]

Based on those stats, the team should be Karl, McLain and Laura with Kent as reserve. Numbers are funny things.

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Agreed.

[Madison]

@kenyarider

Based on those stats, the team should be Karl, McLain and Laura with Kent as reserve. Numbers are funny things

Interesting! What makes this year so hard to predict is that there are massive differences in the intangibles for this group.

[skydy]

The height of the jumps at the Olympics will be 1.5m. (ETA This is not accurate I was looking at the training sessions.)

It’s nice to see Japan qualifying as a team again. They’ve come so far.

[SlamDunk]

The Olympics are definitely bigger than 1.50m. The first speed day is maybe 1.50m but it is definitely a large championship type course for the second round of teams and the individual final

[Demerara_Stables]

@Pennywell_Bay

I’m skeptical that you can offer any insights into the rationale behind the social media team’s posting strategy.

Well considering I know the person in charge of marketing the young horses personally, you’re wrong.

[skydy]

You are right. I was looking at the training sessions. The FEI website says:

“Twelve (12) to 14 obstacles, with maximum 17 efforts, including at least one (1) double
and one (1) treble but not more than two (2) doubles and one (1) treble. The height of
obstacles may vary between 1.40 metres minimum and 1.65 metres maximum, with a
spread in proportion to the height, not exceeding 2.00 metres (2.20 metres for the triple
bar). A maximum of two (2) spread obstacles with a width of 1.00 metre or less may be
used. There must be at least two vertical obstacles of minimum 1.60 metres and at least
six other obstacles of at least 1.40 metres in height. Sloping walls do not count as
compulsory vertical obstacles.”

[skydy]

Not sure why that came out so strangely formatted, but I can’t seem to change it.

[skydy]

@Demerara_Stables

@Pennywell_Bay

I’m skeptical that you can offer any insights into the rationale behind the social media team’s posting strategy.

Well considering I know the person in charge of marketing the young horses personally, you’re wrong.

So your complaint that none of the latest social media posts are promoting Cook’s breeding operation comes from the person who markets the farm’s young horses?

[alicen]

Thanks for the results. No Brits?

[173north]

@Demerara_Stables

Well considering I know the person in charge of marketing the young horses personally, you’re wrong.

If you like this person, I’d suggest you stop posting on this thread, because you’re making them look bad. If you don’t like them and are criticizing KC because of some issue with whoever is doing his young horse marketing… please take a breath.

I think it’s easy to assume on COTH that all of these anonymous usernames are random keyboard warriors, but this is a small world and these forums are a very well-networked group. There’s folks in this thread who work directly with USEF and with the pros on the short list, including in a PR/marketing capacity.

I’m all for transparency but a little perspective is in order, no?

[Pennywell_Bay]

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I think it’s easy to assume on COTH that all of these anonymous usernames are random keyboard warriors, but this is a small world and these forums are a very well-networked group
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Sorry my quote is screwed up.

You bring up good points. The jumper world (because that is what we’re talking about, it like that in Many disciplines) is not that large. AV came back from Europe and was showing in classes at WEC the very next week (man he must be exhausted).

KC’s staff is a small but well liked and well educated group, as is his mom. 3 of his 4 stallions are BWPNA approved. The bloodlines of his young sale horses have excellent breeding top and bottom, so it’s obviously well thought out. Bashing/ arguing over what people thought etc over what some deem an odd post is ridiculous and impossible to prove on either side. If my kid did that well I’d put out the most ridiculous, over the top post on the planet

Let’s all hope that Team USA goes and puts on a good show, regardless of who is on the team. And let’s hope all the horses and people come back in one piece.

[TWilson]

@Rel6

I think Karl has done a great job of making it harder and harder to justify leaving him off the team (and his PR team seems to be working to that end too)

Rel6 is the one who accused Karl’s PR team of working overtime to get him on the team, so I guess my questions regarding who is going to read that instagram post and put him on the team as a result is directed at her. @Rel6, care to provide more details?

[Rel6]

Not really, and especially not to someone who seems to have such poor reading comprehension skills. Not sure where you read an “accusation of working overtime” into my incredibly mild statement.

[enjoytheride]

It’s clear you don’t like Karl. But you’re going to get your friend fired over your opinions on an Instagram post.

[TWilson]

@Rel6

Not really, and especially not to someone who seems to have such poor reading comprehension skills. Not sure where you read an “accusation of working overtime” into my incredibly mild statement.

You’re right, I did exaggerate your original statement - my apologies. I’m still interested in how you think his PR team thinks that instagram post would help him get to the Olympics.

[dags]

I doubt anyone thinks an instagram post is going to get him into the Olympics, think you’re taking Rel’s words a bit literal. But… it’s a PR team. Their whole purpose in life is to raise awareness and generate opportunity. Of course their goal is to support Karl’s Olympic bid in whatever way they can, which in this day & age is an instagram post to his gazillion followers.

[enjoytheride]

It’s a PR team. It’s their job to showcase a rider who’s doing well. Some do it well, some don’t. Karl is riding extremely well which his Instagram is more than happy to brag about. His riding skill is what makes it hard to pick who’s on the team.