*sigh* is there such a thing as corn-free, soy-free, oat-free grain?

Hi, i went through the ringer with two of my clients as we searched high and low for this kind of pelleted feed… We found Renew Gold by the Phoenix Company… Our barn doesn’t carry it so we order 10 bags at a time from our local feed company and bring it ourselves. $50 a bag but without fillers you feed So much less!!! the horses love it too. Super highly recommend it.

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Allergy results back, if horses eat it, mine is allergic. Strongest response to corn, then soy, then oats and to a lesser extent alfalfa and timothy. IS there such a thing as commercial corn-free, soy-free, oat-free grain?[/QUOTE]Hi, i went through the ringer with two of my clients as we searched high and low for this kind of pelleted feed… We found Renew Gold by the Phoenix Company… Our barn doesn’t carry it so we order 10 bags at a time from our local feed company and bring it ourselves. $50 a bag but without fillers you feed So much less!!! the horses love it too. Super highly recommend it.

As best as I can tell, Renew Gold is just rice bran, flax, and coconut meal. He’s already getting rice bran and flax (which is way way cheaper). I don’t know what more I’d really get from adding coconut meal?!

I have not started steaming the hay for a couple reasons. First, it took my a while to decide which of the 2 available models in the US I wanted and then to find a dealer. I did find out, but I am a little hesitant to pull the trigger because it’s a pretty expensive item for something I’ve never even seen in person. Second, the barn staff would have to be really careful to disconnect and store it properly so it didn’t freeze and break. I am thinking I should see how things go through the winter without steaming and then if I still feel like he needs it, start in the spring so they can get used to using it without the added hassle of having to take it apart and store the water container part where it can’t freeze. I feel like I am already making extra work for them and I don’t want to be a hassle AND I would rather they start in a season where one small mistake won’t break a $2000 machine! They do soak his hay (always have because if you don’t he’ll do it himself in his bucket and make a mess-- he’s been like that his whole life) and the hay is now orchard grass.

He can get more hay, I am just not sure how much more he’ll eat. He’s out most of the day in at night and gets 5 flakes. If I throw him another 2 at bedtime after I ride he will eat that before morning. If I give him more than that, he won’t. He goes out on turnout with Frankie and it would be hard to give him more hay during the day and know it ends up inside him and not inside Frankie. Giving him a little more hay is doable but a LOT more hay, probably not. So I think I should up some of the stuff in the baggies too.

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So I didn’t do the “try one thing at a time” because I am anxious to alleviate his symptoms. [/QUOTE]

IMHO, getting rid of ALL possible allergens to clear things up, then adding things back in one at a time, is the better way to go anyway.

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IMHO, getting rid of ALL possible allergens to clear things up, then adding things back in one at a time, is the better way to go anyway.[/QUOTE]

Well, I meant I didn’t wait to try the allergy serum and do just diet change first. It takes up to 6 months to build up the levels and I wanted to get him relief ASAP if it was going to work. But the vet agrees with you, to the extent I could get allergens out of the diet-- doing that was step #1.

I gotcha. But even still - I agree with your approach. Elimination diets tend to work best if all the probably culprits are removed for at least 2 weeks, longer if possible, then one at a time add them back in, starting with the one least likely to be the issue.

Haven’t read the whole thread, but when my horse came back allergic to almost everything I fed him barley (and a vitamin/mineral supplement). He did great on it. Good luck!

https://www.triplecrownfeed.com/products/naturals/horsefeed/

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https://www.triplecrownfeed.com/products/naturals/horsefeed/[/QUOTE]

Contains oats and alfalfa :frowning: Alfalfa is on the “major no” list.

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Haven’t read the whole thread, but when my horse came back allergic to almost everything I fed him barley (and a vitamin/mineral supplement). He did great on it. Good luck![/QUOTE]

He’s on barley, vitamin/mineral supplement along with flax, rice bran, and beep and doing better!

How are things going?

Phenomenal. All symptoms 100% gone. Still tinkering with upping the feed to get his weight up (I added a third smaller meal of beet pulp/barley/rice bran until the grass comes in) but the combination of diet change, allergy shots, and a trace amount of antihistamine is working a charm. Thanks for asking!!!

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Yay!! Very happy for your success!

Sunflower seeds are good for weight and coat shine if he can have them? Also, very tasty :slight_smile:

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Phenomenal. All symptoms 100% gone. Still tinkering with upping the feed to get his weight up (I added a third smaller meal of beet pulp/barley/rice bran until the grass comes in) but the combination of diet change, allergy shots, and a trace amount of antihistamine is working a charm. Thanks for asking!!![/QUOTE]

I found this to be quite effective with my sensitive rose petal.

http://www.platinumperformance.com/horses/health-categories/horse-all-products/equine-platinum-skin-and-allergy-supplement

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I found this to be quite effective with my sensitive rose petal.

http://www.platinumperformance.com/horses/health-categories/horse-all-products/equine-platinum-skin-and-allergy-supplement[/QUOTE]

Interesting, I had a vet recommend that last fall.

OP, is your horse still doing well?

Well, he has lyme :frowning:

But allergy-wise he’s doing fantastic.

He did decide he doesn’t eat a mid-day meal. Until I added a sprinkle of kool aid powder. And now he LIVES for his mid-day meal.

Allergy symptoms gone like they were never there and we’re slowly tapering down the allergy shots now.

Yay for allergies under control, major BOO for lyme :frowning: Hope you can get that under control too!

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Well, he has lyme :frowning:

But allergy-wise he’s doing fantastic.

He did decide he doesn’t eat a mid-day meal. Until I added a sprinkle of kool aid powder. And now he LIVES for his mid-day meal.

Allergy symptoms gone like they were never there and we’re slowly tapering down the allergy shots now.[/QUOTE]

This cracked me up and intrigued me, as I am dealing with a picky eater for an extra meal. What flavor Kool-Aid powder?

Fruit punch