The test may have originated because of dirty practices, but plenty of things cause hypersensitivity without malicious intent. I can bash my shin on the hitch of my truck and it’s going to be hypersensitive. It doesn’t mean that Tonya Harding hired my truck to attack me. 
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Oh yes it does. There was no such thing as a test for hypersensitivity until people started using sharp objects under shin boots or applying caustic substances to their legs to make them jump higher.
They are testing for sensitivity because of that, not because they are woried that a horse might have a cut on his leg or have hit a rail hard. Those things are dealt with by looking at soundness in the jog.[/QUOTE]
No, there was no foul play implied. The FEI stated that.
The horse had a scrap/cut. That made his leg hypersensitive. The same thing happened to Denis Lynch and Latinus at Aachen. He was not cited for any abuse, but the horse was not allowed to compete in that competition/show.
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Haha seriously![/QUOTE]
I’m tuning in late, can someone tell me how far in to the replay her round is??? thanks so much!!!:yes:
Courses?
Are the courses posted any where? I’m watching the replays and while the camera work is really great, I would like to see a map of the courses,because I am too slow of brain to figure them out while watching the rides.
Really? In show jumping? You write remarkably well for a 6 year old…
geez I’m still sleeping, I think-- my previous post/quote made no sense!! sorry !
could someone tell me where Reed’s round is in the BBC coverage?? I’d like to see her go, tried looking for yesterday’s and just couldn’t find it 
thanks in advance, hope this post makes a little more sense 
Given how on fire Flexible has been this year, I’m kind of surprised that there has been no love for him for an individual medal.
He’s won every big class that he’s ridden since April, hasn’t he?
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Really? In show jumping? You write remarkably well for a 6 year old…[/QUOTE]
Too many late nights for you? There are some countries I was unaware of within the whole Olympics. Maybe that is what this poster meant. I hadn’t noticed until these games that Russia went back to the red, white and blue flag. Does that make me a 4 year old?
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Since both were the front rail of an oxer, Reed probably did/didn’t do something that she usually does.
Reed is a huge talent, but is young. However, at the Olympics there are no excuses – so her age/experience should not give her a “bye”. If she is playing in the big boy sandbox, it is because she has shown she can play with the big boys.
I thought she lost a stirrup, too. Looked like she got jumped out of the tack. That probably was a reason she had one rail. But it isn’t an excuse. Everyone else managed to keep their feet in their stirrups.
A rail stays up or it falls down. A light touch is the same number of faults as obliterating a jump because of total pilot error.
People who should medal cannot have faults. No excuses. Period.
Makes me crazy to read that “XXX rode well, too bad about those rails”.
If XXX really rode well, there would have been no rails. All their horses are capable of having clear rounds. At this level, anything less than a clear round is pilot error.[/QUOTE]
This is fine, as long as you don’t give Beezie a break for her poor performance yesterday. If Reed is expected to play in the big boy sandbox every bit as well as those who have been playing in it for much longer, then Beezie, who actually HAS been playing in the big boy sandbox for quite some time, has no excuse for yesterday’s ride.
I don’t see how anyone can deny that this is a sport where experience is a huge factor, and that those who have been riding at this level for decades and have been to the Olympics in previous years have an advantage over those with no previous Olympic experience. All of these horses and riders are basically on an even level talent-wise, so experience is a factor that will certainly come into play.
Exactly, thank you!
In the whole Olympics? Yes, there are some relatively new countries (or renamed countries). But the post I was referring to, in my feed anyhow, followed a post that listed the equestrian show jumping team standings. In that list, Ukraine is the “new” country, and it’s only 21 years old. I was surprised that the level of geographic knowledge had sunk that low among adults. So I made a snarky crack.
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I noticed that too - I thought that was amazing of her! How a coach could not be happy with that round by a 17 yo?? 
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Well because she was chosen for the team despite her age and lack of experience. She’s on the team for ability to produce clear rounds, not so we can say, that’s good for a teenager. There are few from the selection trials who would be pretty mad if that was the attitude from the team/chef d’equipe.
And I agree about George and Katie. Katie looked furious. George looked more grim than usual.
I think what’s confusing me is how they can say who’s qualified for the finals or not when there is one more round to jump.
They CAN’T allow anyone qualified for the Individual NOT ride tomorrow, as the rest wouldn’t be fair to the other horses.
Dividing the Team into two days has me a little confused, too. I thought it was pure Nations’ Cup format.
Oh well.
[QUOTE=Weatherford;6479605]
I think what’s confusing me is how they can say who’s qualified for the finals or not when there is one more round to jump.
They CAN’T allow anyone qualified for the Individual NOT ride tomorrow, as the rest wouldn’t be fair to the other horses.
Dividing the Team into two days has me a little confused, too. I thought it was pure Nations’ Cup format.
Oh well. :)[/QUOTE]
Everyone that is qualified for individual also rides again tomorrow. Just like individuals (Towmey, O’Connor etc) rode today even though they were not part of the team.
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Given how on fire Flexible has been this year, I’m kind of surprised that there has been no love for him for an individual medal.
He’s won every big class that he’s ridden since April, hasn’t he?[/QUOTE]
It’s because he’s from (wait for it), OREGON! :lol:
Don’t want to jinx Rich, but I think he’s got a real shot at it. He has Flexible peaking at just the right time and has carefully managed him this year. Rich is a true horseman and I’m keeping both sets of fingers crossed!
OK dokey!
I, too, don’t want to jinx Rich.
Quite the rollercoaster so far…
It’s unfortunate for Reed, but I think next Olympics that hopefully the selection committee will add experience into the factors that make up the team. Her horse is undoubtedly brilliant, but also green. It was a gamble.
It’s unfortunate for Beezie, but I feel like it is a great learning moment for every equestrian out there. Things don’t always go the way you expect or hope and even the best make mistakes. It’s how you think about it, fix it, and come out the next day that makes the difference between a long-term success or a short-lived career.
Good job to Mclain after so much time off. I’m happy he took the time to heal.
And you can’t say enough about Rich and Flexible. It’s nice to see someone who has worked with his horse for over a decade be as successful as he has been this last couple years. This is the inspirational story of someone who has dedicated his life to the sport, developed a nice horse, and has been grandly rewarded for it. This is what I look up to.
This sport is amazing.
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Well because she was chosen for the team despite her age and lack of experience. She’s on the team for ability to produce clear rounds, not so we can say, that’s good for a teenager. There are few from the selection trials who would be pretty mad if that was the attitude from the team/chef d’equipe.
And I agree about George and Katie. Katie looked furious. George looked more grim than usual.[/QUOTE]
I was naive enough to believe you decided that McLain, Beezie and Rich was such “clearrounders” that a successor could be schooled in nicely in this Olympics to be ready for the Gold medal in the next without spoiling your chances in this! Forgot that you come from a nation where even the No1 ranked guys in the world has to do trials.
Reed, you can change nationality any day and become a Superswede, we would applause your rounds! I know a nice 23 yo guy that rides the jumpers and is tall and blonde and fancies you, welcome! :winkgrin:
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I can bash my shin on the hitch of my truck and it’s going to be hypersensitive. It doesn’t mean that Tonya Harding hired my truck to attack me. ;)[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol:
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Im watching the SN feed and they said Tiffany was DQ,ed due to hypersensitivity on horses leg and it is under appeal !!! :([/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Polydor;6479237]Just got a bit more news about Tiffany Foster’s horse had a cut underneath a boot. I’m guessing the appeal didn’t work, would have been very surprised if it had really.
Sad but sounds like he will live to fight another day.
Canada still sitting in 3rd overall. Woot!
P.[/QUOTE]
All appeals regarding lameness cannot be overturned. Her Olympic hopes are dashed this time around. Tiffany is young, however. There should be more Olympics for her in the future.
The reason the Canadian riders are annoyed is because while it’s a good rule, it’s not being applied in a sensible fashion. This was a cut the horse got in the stall, probably banged something. The horse isn’t lame and isn’t being affected to jump, but is tender if the cut is pressed on. Just like any fresh cut would be tender to press on.
Torchy’s comments were: “The rule was put in to protect the horses, but this is just a blind application of a rule without any common sense at all.”
