Sjef Janssen quits

[dutchmike]

[QUOTE=DanniS;2377667]

[B]Trainer-pupil (HS9/13)

Anky van Grunsven en Imke Schellekens-Bartels

De amazone wordt getraind door tweevoudig olympisch kampioene Anky van Grunsven. Hoefslag bezocht het tweetal tijdens een training.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Translated into english " the rider is being trained by two time champion Anky v G. yada,yada,yada.

The bottom line is that although noone agrees with his methods etc finds him arrogant etc , he does produce winning horses/riders. In short if you can do it better than Sjefke then get your butt into gear and produce better results

[fargo]

The funny thing is that you don’t really know what’s going on at all. Sjef was coach for the A AND THE B-TEAM. The B-team should be wanna-be candidates for the A-team, working their asses of to get into the A-team and in that way increasing the population of the group available for the Olympics. So Sjef was coaching about 12 people or something like that, wouldn’t know the exact number at this time but it involves much more than the actual olympic riders that participated until now. The statements he made are about the WHOLE A- and B-selection. So while you are focussing on the A-members this also and mostly involves the B-selection too. Imke was trained by Tineke and still is trained by Tineke and is also training since years and years with Anky and/or Sjef. This relation hasn’t changed. Who actually gives the lessons varies but she is still also being trained/coached by Anky and Sjef. So to think that Imke is not training with them is not true. She also trains with her mom who is with her at the Academy which they run together…

[DanniS]

[QUOTE=sm;2378065]
well, that’s one down (ALLEGEDLY absolved from the charge) and three to go:

fargo #129: “…Imke is one of the persons that is personally still training with Anky and Sjef and is not one of the persons that isn’t up to standard. She is definitely not one of the persons that Sjef is complaining about. She is still riding with them and is always aiming for the highest possible.”

Too bad it didn’t get top press, so far is it reported ANYWHERE besides our little group here?[/QUOTE]

I hope this has now been cleared up for you in post # 138 & 139.
You see it has been reported in the press, but it seems that those who don’t understand Dutch have problems reading it.

But hey considering the people in question ARE Dutch it is hardly surprising that this is where they get coverage.:lol:

For those people who follow International dressage it hardly seems necessary that every time Imke or Anky compete that it has to be reiterated who is the trainer of who, it should already be known.

[DanniS]

[QUOTE=egontoast;2378189]
ooooh sorry but look I know it’s hard to accept but everyone can be wrong sometime. It’s Ok. To live is to err.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]

Oh eggy, you should know by now that there are a select few who NEVER err.
But if this is all they are picking on me for and not the content of what I am posting makes you wonder if they are clutching at straws:confused: :lol:

I would love to be perfection personified but alas I am a mere human, sm I am sorry I am not as perfect as you with my grammar.
But don’t you find it odd that whilst reading everyone’s posts you must revert to a dictionary???.

[Sabine]

Imke went back to her family to train…without breaking her good relationship to A&S- but still drawing the line- as did van Lieren, van Baalen and Gal to a certain degree…too much Sjef is hard to digest…

Eggie and Danni- keep it up-- I luv the loose spelling around here…LOL- very becoming for foreigners…

[DanniS]

Oh Sabine, I can’t help being foreign, really I can’t.:lol: :lol:
This thread has given me much amusement and I hope it continues to do so.:yes:

All along my point has been:
I really never will figure out why people find it necessary to begrudge another person’s choice to decide what they want to do.
And I do find it a little strange that court records were posted because noone knows if it has been settled or not.
And for that matter why is it anyone else’s business??

Yes this is qa BB and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but… if we could keep to the facts where possible and stop trying to defame someone most people here have never met then that would be good.

[Sabine]

[QUOTE=DanniS;2379087]
Oh Sabine, I can’t help being foreign, really I can’t.:lol: :lol:
This thread has given me much amusement and I hope it continues to do so.:yes:

All along my point has been:
I really never will figure out why people find it necessary to begrudge another person’s choice to decide what they want to do.
And I do find it a little strange that court records were posted because noone knows if it has been settled or not.
And for that matter why is it anyone else’s business??

Yes this is qa BB and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but… if we could keep to the facts where possible and stop trying to defame someone most people here have never met then that would be good.:)[/QUOTE]

This is a very good post that could be applied to several threads that are on-going here right now…

best advice I can give: go back to riding - and make your next ride better! Focus- feel - enjoy!

[DanniS]

[QUOTE=Sabine;2379092]
This is a very good post that could be applied to several threads that are on-going here right now…

best advice I can give: go back to riding - and make your next ride better! Focus- feel - enjoy![/QUOTE]

I agree.
Unfortunately I am not riding atm as I do not have enough time.:no:
But if you’d like to volunteer to come over, I have a REALLY nice Don Frederico stallion who’d appreciate the work. :winkgrin:

OMG, I just noticed another typo in my previous post :eek: , I guess it’s only a matter of time before I am villified for that as well. :lol: :lol:

[Sabine]

[QUOTE=DanniS;2379097]
I agree.
Unfortunately I am not riding atm as I do not have enough time.:no:
But if you’d like to volunteer to come over, I have a REALLY nice Don Frederico stallion who’d appreciate the work. :winkgrin:

OMG, I just noticed another typo in my previous post :eek: , I guess it’s only a matter of time before I am villified for that as well. :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]

I’d take the stallion in a heartbeat…but I think - alone flying time is like 20hours?? from LA? jeez someone invent a time machine already—I would LOVE to galopp a nice stallion across the lush green fields of NZ…my god- what a treat that would be- and leave all this nitty-gritty BS behind…YEAH!!!

[DanniS]

[QUOTE=Sabine;2379110]
I’d take the stallion in a heartbeat…but I think - alone flying time is like 20hours?? from LA? jeez someone invent a time machine already—I would LOVE to galopp a nice stallion across the lush green fields of NZ…my god- what a treat that would be- and leave all this nitty-gritty BS behind…YEAH!!![/QUOTE]

Lush green fields of WHERE???

I’m Australian not a Kiwi. :lol: :lol:
But we do have the fields, maybe not lush green atm, but fiels none the less.

[Sabine]

[QUOTE=DanniS;2379130]
Lush green fields of WHERE???

I’m Australian not a Kiwi. :lol: :lol:
But we do have the fields, maybe not lush green atm, but fiels none the less.[/QUOTE]

Oh sorry- but nonetheless- what I hear it’s heaven down there- and much more relaxed than what we have around here…actually a countrymate of yours is coming to visit me this summer…we just need faster airplanes and I’ll hop on over and ride that nice young horse of yours…;)!!!

[DanniS]

[QUOTE=Sabine;2379138]
Oh sorry- but nonetheless- what I hear it’s heaven down there- and much more relaxed than what we have around here…actually a countrymate of yours is coming to visit me this summer…we just need faster airplanes and I’ll hop on over and ride that nice young horse of yours…;)!!![/QUOTE]

you’d be welcome anytime, I’d love to have you stay.
I’m going to the Bundeschampionat this year and catching up with friends, are you going?

[Sabine]

[QUOTE=DanniS;2379144]
you’d be welcome anytime, I’d love to have you stay.
I’m going to the Bundeschampionat this year and catching up with friends, are you going?[/QUOTE]

when is it? I am in England in June- that’s for sure- end of June…

[DanniS]

August, mid to late I think

[Velvet]

Resurrecting this thread to wonder what he’s up to these days…I haven’t heard much about him, and Anky was not in this last Olympics. I also see that the trend appears to be moving away from overbent horses that have been doing rollkur. Which makes me happy.

[Equibrit]

http://www.eurodressage.com/equestrian/2015/02/27/belgian-equestrian-federation-extends-contract-sjef-janssen

1 Individual was 35th in the GP.

[Crockpot]

Resurrecting this thread to wonder what he’s up to these days…I haven’t heard much about him, and Anky was not in this last Olympics. I also see that the trend appears to be moving away from overbent horses that have been doing rollkur. Which makes me happy

Oh dear. OP must be bored again

reviving a 9 year old thread about rollkur.

:lol:

This is probably another drive by posting by the OP.

[Velvet]

Looks like no one that’s not on my ignore list is replying. :lol:

[Crockpot]

Looks like no one that’s not on my ignore list is replying

So funny when people pretend you are on their ignore list (la dee dah)

but cant resist replying anyway.

I call- Pants on fiah.

[enjoytheride]

Velvet must be super bored at work or on vacation as she’s started a half dozen threads in an attempt to stir something up.