Krywswyn: “…a bit ‘tetchy’ to use Duffy’s word”…
It’s not “tetchy”, it’s “TITCH”!! 
ok, sorry to take so long… but my mind has been a million places lately…
i am waiting for a call from the vet right now to tell me what the whole tests showed. we had many done…
i will fill u in soon as i know…
seger was positioned in his stall in what may not eb a traditional “cast” position. but he was in the corner of his stall with his legs under him funny when i found him in teh morning and had his head in the corner… everytime he tried to get up he bashed his head quite hard into teh corner… there were no deep cuts… but i know he had to have had a VERY bad headache and he could not get up in any way when he was in that position… i figure he had been trying for a while b/c he was tired when i first found him… he then thrashed about and repositioned himself, but still could not get his legs under him correctly to get up…
i have learned alot from all of this… first of all… we are the luckiest people alive to have earned the respect and love of these wonderful animals… and i will never again complain abouthaving to haul my butt outta a warm bed to feed, and i will always tell my boy i love him when i say goodnight…
but more importantly… get big stalls… and always be prepared for something like this !!! please please please everyone have an emergency plan !!! if i had one i could’ve started and been ready alot faster!!! please be prepared…
well… i will post again when the vet calls…
Musical_Jumper
“I’m sick of the tension, sick of the hunger
Sick of you acting like I owe you this
Find another place to feed your greed
While I find a place to rest”
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I agree completely, being an abusee does NOT make you an abuser. Having no self control and no positive outlet for your frustrations makes you an abuser. There is never an excuse.
JoHn (WiNgLeT)
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-Lewis Carroll
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My, what an adorable doggy you have there Quinn!
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Poor MJ.
It is a big burden.
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gwen:
it took 2 weeks to get a vet appointment yet when it came down to it, the day he died he was there within an hour!!!
Barb 
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And he had time to call Touche’ on the way?
Thanks, Jess! Our place was okay, but we did have to wait awhile before we were allowed back in. The cat was very upset that dinner was served so late! What a scary experience to go through…this guy has always been a problem. However, I always thought he was going to beat the snot out of one of us, not blow the snot out of us (and the rest of the resients)! And believe me, we live in a very established community. I think A and I are the only ones under 30 besides this guy. Just goes to show you that it can happen anywhere.
Sorry to change the subject…
your comments are helpful…
but unfortunately i just received an instant message from someone on here who obviously was not ahppy with me… i have no idea who she/he was… only thier aol name… but aywayz… they were obviously quite upset with me and i dont know why… i did not get to read the deleted messages… i am working on my website and researching what to do with the jockey club registry right now and thought id stop in…
my story i assure you IS NOT made up…
i thank you all who are supportive… and will keep the comments to the others in myown head … i woudl not dare to act as foolish as they have in front of so many people…
Musical_Jumper
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kcorseinop:
She hasn’t been on AIM either, so I don’t think she’s been around. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Perhaps she hasn’t been around becuase it 2:20 in the afternoon in Indiana. M_J is probably still in school at this time and can either respond or not respond to these posts when she gets home.
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With you 100% on those thoughts.
This whole episode is so tragic.
Touche- Do you know if anyone has personally talked to MJ’s parents about what happened, and showed them her posts on this BB? I am being optomistic in thinking that they truly didn’t know what a starving horse looked like, and that MJ didn’t tell them. I think this is very important that they be fully aware of the situation. MJ definitely needs psychological help. Also, that pony should be elsewhere, given her history of neglect (intentional or not). MJ’s posts seem to reveal a deep desire to get attention, be liked, and avoid reality. I’m not a psychiatrist, but I really think she needs help.
Her posts need to be read by her parents. If they don’t seem overly concerned, I’d be running to the city attourney’s office to file charges of animal abuse/neglect. I’d rather see MJ get help than be prosecuted, since I don’t think that she would be held accountable, and her parents would.
If her parents are so off in “la-la” land that they don’t see a problem with the whole situation, then they probably should be prosecuted, just to wake them up to the responsibilities of being a parent and accepting responsibility for what goes on under their roof.
I am not absolving MJ of responsibility, but believe no one in their right mind could do what she did concerning this whole thing.
I will say a litle prayer for you and your special boy. He is galloping in heaven with my mare Beauty and Penny and Velvet and George.
If you can’t beat 'em, try harder. And God Bless America my home sweet home!
GREAT IDEA!!! I think I will do that right now! There is nothing we can do about Seger…so why not help some more poor animals that need our help!!
Barb
I have been actively doing Jack Russell Terrier rescues for over 25 years.
Before the JRTCA even had any rescue plans.
I have seen and heard it all.
So I am a cynic when people ask for help or advice and keep coming back without even taking any of the advise and using it.
The worst case on my mind at the moment is the lady with cancer and 15 + dogs loose in her house.
Dogs were rescued from a house that had dog poo everywhere.
The house stunk so badly you had to wear a mask. And the poo was on the walls, windows, everywhere. 
We took these dogs placed them in foster homes, spayed, neutered and found them nice permanent homes.
The lady goes into remission and goes out and purchases more dogs to breed and sell 
Sorry to ramble, but I love animals and sometimes hate people. 
I know most people here are concerned for the welfare of EVERY SINGLE horse mentioned on this board.
I am NOT taking sides here, so I will give you my opinion on both parts.
Having a horse is a huge responsibility that I’m surprised she didn’t learn in PC.(Didn’t someone mention she was in that?) That is the one thing I really got out of PC. It sounds like she had a lot of people trying to help her(Touche, especially). So if she got lazy…bored sick of Seger…we just don’t know.
Growing up now IS VERY HARD. A LOT harder for some than others. We do not know a lot of background on M_J, so there could be some reason for this, but like I stated above…we just don’t know. I have had a rough childhood and now at the ripe ol’age of 16 I am in heavy counseling. I have been diagnosed with ADHD and Depression. Some days I will be happy as a clam, but others I will have a huge anxiety attack where nothing seems right, I can’t trust anyone and I just completely freak out and shut down…a lot of the time for no reason. I take different medicines to try to help me, but they don’t work all that great. Sometimes they actually make me worse. Since I’m a teenager, I so enjoy going out on the weekends partying and doing some drinking…It took me like 9 months to realize that I can’t drink with these pills…even though my therapists told me not to, I just thought it was to keep underage drinking down…No, its because the two substances have such a bad reaction that I have almost died before! And it took me about 3 or 4 times of blacking out, throwing up for hours on end and then waking up and not remembering a damn thing…Scary Sh!t I tell you…
So a lot of you are probably confused why I just gave you a real personal summary of my life, I’m not exactly sure either, but I felt that I had to make a point…Everyone has something about them that they don’t want everyone else to know. Maybe there is something about M_J that caused this whole situation, but she just can’t say what. It’s frustrating to us because we are just such a loving bunch we DO like to help each other. But at the same time, its frustrating to M_J also because she wants help, but she doesn’t exactly know how to ask it or shes scared.
We all have lives outside of this board(With the exception of maybe ErinB, Colin, and VTrider…but thats another issue… ) I think people should try to focus on something else instead of this.
The reason Erin has these wonderful boards for us to use is so we can help one another, not try to murder each other! So how about me drop this topic now?? M_J has expressed how she feels and that she has left the COTH, so there is no reason to drag this on! I know we are all sick of Ryans bridle threads and the endless Approved vs. Unaproved topics. Let’s put this one in the pot too!! Bury it for good!
The past is over so let us look towards the future, for it is the only way to go, forward and not back
Ok, I’m going to jump in to my flame suit and cuddle up in my fire blanket…
Have a great night!
~Steph
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~Nelly
ive put a tribute page with some pics on my website… just thought i’d let you guys know…
Musical_Jumper
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Looking back, hasn’t this horse been loosing weight since Sept. 23?
After being aghast at this, I find myself asking (as others have) “what do the parents have to say?” (apart from mind your own business). Do they know what really happened?
You know, generally when it is known that an animal has been neglected and died as a result of neglect the SPCA presses charges.
Here’s a recent article from Horse and Hound:
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/article/0,84426,00.html
I am sure that M_J knows pretty well by now that she made mistakes she will have to live with for the rest of her life, but I am not convinced her parents realize all this.
I am NOT saying M_J and her family should be turned in, but nobody’s even mentioned the legal implications, and being aware that this is potentially a prosecutable offense could maybe have knocked some sense into her parents before it was too late.
Another thing that occurred to me, and not to be slanderous but simply to point a possibility out: How is M_J’s relationship with her parents? Could it be that M_J’s parents are hard-headed? Difficult for her to get along with? Not amenable to costs and so on related to horses? Is it possible M_J was too scared to ask them for help for fear they’d…say no? Such things do happen. Having parents who are…shall we say…“less than supportive”…can be stupefying, paralysing…can lead you to forget how to do the right thing. Know what I mean?
