Solar panels to power electric fence

I’m looking into replacing my fencing, and I will have either board fence with one hot wire on the inside, or a top rail with three strands of electric braid/tape/something. I will eventually have a total of 4 paddocks and about 18,000 linear feet of fencing.

Right now I have one paddock with electric fencing, and it is wired directly into the barn. I plug it in to turn it on. I don’t want all the electric hard wired into my system, and I’m thinking about solar panels. Any comments or recommendations?

We have a Parmak Solar-powered charger that works well for us.

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Solar chargers are likely a much better solution. Even if you have to buy multiple units they will be vastly cheaper than creating a solar system (requiring collectors, batteries, wiring, inverters, etc.) to power conventional chargers.

The downside is a solar charged fence requires constant attention to ensure vegetation, shorts, etc. are addressed regularly.

You don’t note where you are. In some places (like the TN Valley) we can have multiple days of little or no sunshine. I’ve actually had solar powered fence chargers “die” due to lack of sunlight. This would not likely be a problem in AZ (or places like it). :wink:

Solar can work under the right circumstances but it’s no “free lunch.”

G.

I have a solar charger for my fence. We get a lot of cloudy days but so far it’s working well. I bought the biggest one at TSC and don’t have nearly 10 miles of fence.
Anybody know of a solar powered water tank heater?

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I have a solar charger for my fence. We get a lot of cloudy days but so far it’s working well. I bought the biggest one at TSC and don’t have nearly 10 miles of fence.
Anybody know of a solar powered water tank heater?[/QUOTE]

Doctracy, as I posted in the other thread there is this solar water tank.
http://www.ranchtanks.com/productinfo.html I know of someone in Alberta that has one it works well.

I recommend getting a catalog from http://www.premier1supplies.com. It is like a textbook for electric fencing. They package solar chargers as well.

The “miles of fencing” claim is crap. :slight_smile: You can use it as a rough guide of power (25 >10), but it doesn’t really mean you can have 10 miles of fence line or 10 miles of wire (note they are different if you have more than one strand).

I’ve had good luck with a Parmak solar charger on Horseguard tape and also with a Premier1 unit on a couple of rolls of electric mesh fencing for sheep. (The mesh inevitably touches weeds, so it needs a stronger charger.) Most of the units you can just buy in the feed store are too wimpy to handle any fence that ever touches a plant, and won’t necessarily have enough shock deterrence to keep animals off it. (Especially in winter.) I had to replace one of those units when my sheep were chewing on the electrified part of the fence…

Electric fence is fairly high maintenance. You get portability and relatively low cost, but you do need to patrol it for weeds, shorts, and breaks if your horses have any notions of leaving the area.

The solar chargers are unfortunately expensive, but for me, it beats having to run electric out to anywhere I want to fence, or the hassle of remembering to recharge/check a battery only system.

I have 2 old 6 watt Parmaks. Both nearing 20 years old. Have replaced the batteries once in all the years. Not because I actually needed to. More so, because “maybe” it was about time I did. Major thumbs up to Parmak.

They also come in 12 watt.

There is a middle ground – I run HorseGuard BiPolar tape (OMG LOVE), pretty much no maintenance, so easy to put up, on Parmak’s fantastic little $85 DC-powered box (pushes out lots of joules, I like) I picked up from ValleyVet. I have it hooked up to a nice deep-cycle battery, which I’ve been charging with a borrowed charger ~once a month.

HOWEVER, no more charging!! Battery connects to a solar panel (google Northern Tool’s 15V BatterMinder solar kit) that keeps it charged, complete with controller (keep in mind, panel has to be big enough to push out more than 12V if it’s going to keep battery charged while running). Love it, and don’t have to pay out the nose for a good solar charger (usually approaching $400) & the battery itself provides lots of reliable power, even if the panel doesn’t have a good day (although the latter is unlikely on the top of my clear, south-facing hill in NC).

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There is a middle ground – I run HorseGuard BiPolar tape (OMG LOVE), pretty much no maintenance, so easy to put up, on Parmak’s fantastic little $85 DC-powered box (pushes out lots of joules, I like) I picked up from ValleyVet. I have it hooked up to a nice deep-cycle battery, which I’ve been charging with a borrowed charger ~once a month.

HOWEVER, no more charging!! Battery connects to a solar panel (google Northern Tool’s 15V BatterMinder solar kit) that keeps it charged, complete with controller (keep in mind, panel has to be big enough to push out more than 12V if it’s going to keep battery charged while running). Love it, and don’t have to pay out the nose for a good solar charger (usually approaching $400) & the battery itself provides lots of reliable power, even if the panel doesn’t have a good day (although the latter is unlikely on the top of my clear, south-facing hill in NC).[/QUOTE]

That’s a nice product. I think the pricing works out pretty similarly to the good quality solar chargers when you add in all the components bought at once. But a very nice way to step yourself into one, for sure.

Wildlifer…do you power any other things with you solar, lights, etc…

Thank, wildlifer! I copied your post and emailed it to myself. I am in MD, and have one “winter” paddock that has a big run in shed and an outlet I can plug a tank heater into. It’s already electric tape with a top board, and is hardwired into my barn power. I need to refence my other 3 paddocks, and want to do electric with them as well, but don’t want them to be hardwired into the barn or house.

An alternative to solar is wind by using a vertical axis wind turbine… these have commonly been used on boats for over 100 years
http://windtechniek.nl/Yachting-Monthly.pdf

Use an Absorbent Glass Mat (AGM) battery for storage; it is more expensive but will provide better service and is maintenance free

The Parmark solar chargers are great-- I’ve rarely had issues with them. And they are pretty reasonably priced.

I currently have a Patriot Solar Charger that was on super clearance at my local feed store. I paid less than $100 for it and it’s still going strong after nearly 3 years… no complaints!

Although I am curious to check out wildlifer’s solar kit-- I’d love something like that if you could power lights for a shed off of it!

I have a patriot solar fence charger, good for 40 acres/10 miles. Cost roughly $250 Canadian. I’m quite happy with it this far. Have a strand around each of the 3 fence boards on both 1/2 acre paddocks. I tied in my lowest board on strategic places so it’s be easy to turn that one off in the event of a lot of snow. Never mind that with my ground frozen so hard the horses aren’t grounded to complete a zap in winter (oops!).

My charger also clips to the wire with a simple alligator clip. If I want to disconnect it, it takes 3 seconds.

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Wildlifer…do you power any other things with you solar, lights, etc…[/QUOTE]

Hee, yes, I am a solar fiend. Since all my infrastucture is at the top of a rise in a nice clear area, I get sun galore. Plus, working as a field biologist, I’ve had to design/build a lot of “creative problem solutions” for work in place with no power.

I’d love to add solar to the house, but as wisely noted, you have to get way more complicated battery banks, wiring, etc for that, so…that’s way too much work & money! I almost bought a solar trickle charger for the tractor battery, but that little Shibaura diesel engine is a beast & doesn’t need one! 0.0

For my charger set up cost: $85 for Parmak DC charger, ~$110 for quality deep cycle battery (I’d love an AGM, but out of my budget!), NT’s solar kit for $150. I’ll do the wiring & mounting myself, it’s not my first rodeo, but it’s very simple anyway & they have good directions. So materials cost = ~$345.

So yeah, not too far off from a nice Parmak solar charger, but if we have a lot of crappy weather, panel breaks/malfunctions, charging is slower than expected or lapses, sun implodes, etc, the battery alone will run the charger for at least 45 days (I’ve never run it till it died, so…). Plus the DC charger puts out more power, esp joules for less $.

My feed shed is lit with a LED ceiling-mount light that is kept charged via a small (included) external solar panel (it’s a 10’ Rubbermaid shed, just ran the plug wire through a seam) that I picked off the clearance shelf at TSC…for a whopping $15. Awesome bonus: since the light itself is battery-powered, I can unplug it & take it out into the run-in & smack magnetic base on the steel supports for extra light.

The run-in is lit via an insanely bright LED magnetic light (ummm, I really like magnets too, my trailer is steel & I have the coolest magnetic paper towel holder…) which, although not solar, holds a charge for about 30 days of regular use, then plugs in to recharge the built-in lithium battery.

I have a collection of small magnetic lights, since the last place I boarded before I brought the horses home, I’d just tack them up at my trailer, in the dark, so I smacked a bunch of those on there, very handy. Even have one with a motion sensor! And I kind of really want this thing.

The things to look out for if you are powering something real (i.e. not my little shed light, it’s easy) are a quality panel that can put out enough power–remember, that will vary with season/strength of sunlight. Also, I love LEDs, but I’ve learned to check out the lumen rating before buying, some can be pretty pathetic!

I’m also a big fan of passive solar for things like trough heating (you can google it, otherwise this essay will never end!). But here’s a good example – although there’s a much less complicated way, it’s based on the same concept. http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/WaterHeating/FreedomStockTank/SolarStockTank.htm

ETA – a good solar panel: if it’s cheap, it probably sucks. When it comes to the panels themselves, you DO get what you pay for. If it’s $5 on Amazon, it’s not going to produce squat. RV sites are another good place to find creative ideas.

gallagher, who is an excellent brand, has a solar charger that is larger than my S17, which has given me good service, although I had to replace it when lightning got it. I’m yearning for the B100 or even just the S20. The B100 is a better value, but it doesn’t include the battery.
http://www.jefferspet.com/products/s20-solar-energizer?gclid=CILmxpKaocICFQphfgodnXkAMg

Of course, what charger you get will be determined by the outside dimensions of your pastures.

Another vote for Parmak solar chargers. Here in MD, never a day without juice, rain , snow, etc. Just do be sure to brush the snow off the solar panel.

chicamuxen

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understand this an old thread revisited by a spammer but there is an error in one post

(keep in mind, panel has to be big enough to push out more than 12V if it’s going to keep battery charged while running).

A 12 volt solar panel no matter what the wattage should produce about 17.5 volts DC… it is the wattage that does the charging.

A 5 watt 12 volt solar panel will product about 330 milliamps which about 1/3 of one watt

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Well, you can count watts and volts in your fingers and toes easily, but when it comes to milliamps, not so easy, the numbers get too large quickly.

Maybe ask a milliped to help?