something to kill adult Onchocerca? 19 CASE STUDIES POSTED-PAGE 58

Hmm, you quoted me and in said quote it says “Ask your vet” - I only mentioned aspirin therapy because it’s part of the Auburn Protocol for ERU. I know----I lived with ERU in my late app mare for four years.

In any question ever posted in this or any other thread about Uveitis, I have always said “Get vet involved when it comes to eyeballs.”

Just want to chime in that I have done the double dose regimen twice with Sadie (last year and this year) and am fixing to do her again, with plain ivermectin since we havent had a good hard freeze yet. She has been rubbing her tail a little but I am here to tell you, old girl HAS MANE before COLD WEATHER for the first time since I’ve owned her. Not to mention big dapples all over her entire furry self. My mission in life is to get her thru next year with NO mane loss at all.

Stupid question–how come the other horse has no symptoms? He’s two years younger, neglected as all get out and very thin when I got him two years ago, but AFAIK has lived down here in parasite hell his whole entire life. (He’s 8, Sadie is 10.) I havent felt any burning need to double dose him, but ivermectin is cheap enough, should I just for the merry hell of it?

Is there any natural resistance to these cooties, or some foul stench emitted by by the gelding that makes him immune to the wretched gnats? He pretty much comes thru GA summers itch free while Sadie is a welted, runny eyed, swollen eyelidded, scabby-docked maneless mess.

jeano, that’s a prime example of how individual immune systems can literally make or break a horse (or any creature, for that matter).

I reckon so. Its just so astonishing to see her, abso-friggin-lutely miserable, hiding out in the shade while he’s out in the sun wondering why she wont come out and play–and they’re both dark bay, so coat color has nothing to do with it. But definitely her haircoat and comfort level much improved, even in midsummer, since I first started giving her tons o’ ivermectin (initially at my vet’s suggestion–he told me not long after I got her that she had onchocerca and advised dosing her every month–here’s to my vet!)

NTW’s ??

After scimming through this gigantic thread about NTW’s i think i may want to treat two of my horses w/ the DD Equimax protocol…however i just gave them all their single dose of Equimax last friday as it was time for that part of their rotation…should i wait 2 weeks to start the dd regimen followed again in 2wks after that? or can i start it sooner like this friday-that would be one week post single dose?

Horse 1- is an 18yr old Danish Wb Geld-on/off extremely itchy on his neck,mane,chest,midline,crusty elbows,rubs hair off tail,goopy eyes,occassional spookiness

Horse 2- 4yr Dutch Wb Geld…mild itchyness,but has had on going/recurring scratches that will not resolve underneath fetlocks on front legs,and on side of hind leg in between fetlock/pastern

Ladipus: Since they had a single dose last Friday, I’d double dose them this Friday and then again in 14 days.

Super Yuck! Found worms in my mare’s manure!

She appears healthy and has a beautiful shiny coat.
I keep my stalls and paddocks clean.
I thought that I was worming her correctly…
What is going on here?
And more importantly, what do I do now?

I will try to post pictures later but the worms are about 1-2 inches long and white. Looks like Ascarids or large Roundworms but I really don’t know.
Need help!

[QUOTE=LoveGirl83102;4484014]
I’ve never heard of these before, and I’m wishing I’d opened this thread earlier.

This aren’t in the Pacific Northwest are they?[/QUOTE]

Yes, they are! I am in Marysville, 30 miles north of Seattle, WA. My horse (a rescue) has evidently been in Western Washington for several of his 8 years.

He was rescued 1 1/2 years ago by my trainer and I have owned him since January of 09. He was neglected and abandoned in a field up near Bellingham for who-knows-how-many years. His feet were in such bad shape he could not walk so you know there wasn’t any worming done, like, ever! :mad:

He has had a persistent case of scratches, itchy bumps on his neck, over one hip, and along his belly with red scabby things along the midline and on his sheath. He has scurffy dermatitis on the fronts of both back legs. He also has extremely goopy eyes, and intermittent front pastern joint lameness, and regular cycles of tail itchiness. :no:

I have tried several scratches remedies to no avail. Eye remedies etc., to no avail. :frowning:

He sounds SO much like what I am reading here that I am starting him on the DD Equimax this week. The second dose is ordered. I am prepared to go for the third dose and then frequent ivermectin thru the year, and do the DD Equimax several times a year.

My boy, Ice, is the sweetest, calmest, kindest horse on the face of the earth and it pains me to see him suffer so.

Chocomare, and JB, (and others) THANK YOU so much for providing all this information. May God richly bless you! :winkgrin:

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re: adult ntws.

Someone just said that they adults don’t die. I get that you can’t kill the adults, but don’t they only have a life span of 3-4 months? I thought I read that? So you would kill the non mature NTWs, and keep them dead for that 3-4 months life span, then the adults die and it should all be done and gone. Yes? No? Am I wrong in my thinking?

SpottedTApps - the adults unfortunately can live 10-15 years :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

Thanks Chocomare! will do…hopefully this will help!

DD Equimaxx WORKS!!!

OMG - I almost don’t believe it. :eek:

I will fill out the proper reporting form in a minute, but I just had to share this with you all.

My trainer was very doubtful about the Equimaxx protocol. She’s the one who found Ice 18 months ago, rescued him, and sold him to me. She had never heard of any of this, but she helped me implement it. :slight_smile:

Because I have had health issues this fall myself, I am not able to be with Ice as often as I would like. My trainer has been working with him twice a week for the past 3 months. I see him once a week, if only to groom him and love on him.

A week and a half after the first DD, his eyes started to look better and not produce as much gunk. He still had the scratches, itchy bumps, scurffy back legs, and lameness in his front pastern joint, and hitch in his hindquarter that keeps him from cantering.

Now, 2 weeks after the second DD, his eyes are perfectly normal! The discharge, with an 18 month history, is GONE.

What’s more, the tender pink skin around his blue eyes used to be red and swollen more or less all the time. That is now GONE. He looks like a different horse!

But wait, there’s more! One night this week I was changing his turnout blanket. My trainer suggested I go over his ‘icky spots’ and check his scurffy legs as she does, just to keep an eye on his condition.

She could hardly believe it when she went over him and could find NO icky bumps anywhere on his body. The scurffy stuff on his back legs is nearly gone, and the scratches are much improved.

But wait, there’s more! I drove up to the barn the other day after talking myself into going, because I did not feel well. As I rounded the corner I saw Ice and his 2 pasture buddies standing together in the corner closest to the driveway. I stopped and rolled down the window and said hello to Ice.

Ice made eye contact with me, then whirled around and took off at a dead gallop across the pasture. The other 2 just stood there looking at him.

He went all the way down to one end, rounded a corner, and threw in 3 big bucks just for the heck of it.

Ice has NEVER done that. :cool:

He changed gaits gracefully from extended trot, canter, gallop and back again several times.

This went on for over 10 minutes!!

Ice never took one lame step. :eek:

I could not stop myself bursting into grateful, joyful tears. :D:D:D

:winkgrin:

GOOD FOR YOU! I have a little tear in my eye for how happy that gallop must have made you. I hope you have many more joyful moments.

I would just like to mention that all over this thread are the words CONSULT YOUR VETERINARIAN. Chocomare says it all the time, JB says it all the time, I say it all the time…

and just to CYA a little more, I’ve now got it in my signature line!

So if something about this thread gets your panties wadded up and you think everyone needs to contact their vet… please note… it has been advised to do so, over and over again…

and I, for one, am tired of typing it!

Sorry, did I miss a page. You can PM me if you like. I am a bit obtuse.

It was not directed towards you, sorry! More like a PSA about the fact that we do indeed advise people to talk to their vet and the amount of CYA that is starting to be required around here these days is a bit discouraging.

EqT: Preach it sista! :winkgrin:

Winkybear: So glad to hear such a glowing report on your boy. :yes:

[QUOTE=EqTrainer;4569772]
It was not directed towards you, sorry! More like a PSA about the fact that we do indeed advise people to talk to their vet and the amount of CYA that is starting to be required around here these days is a bit discouraging.[/QUOTE]

No worries. I didn’t think it was directed at me, it just seemed a bit out of the blue. I had noticed the addition of your sig CYA. I suppose there is a lawyer out there somewhere who thinks the board can be sued.

I just want to send a Thank you from the other side of the atlantic;-)
I live in Sweden, and our veterinarians are often good but in some instances they choose to keep their eyes closed! Saying for instance that Neck threadworms does not exist any longer in Sweden etc… Baaah

BUT I had a little irish cob mare that had sweet itch, lumps like elephantiasis on her pasterns and was tender on her chest with flaking skin… I tried EVERYTHING as so many others here and then I found this thread and Choco Mares wonderful advice;-) I am so happy that in the end I at least succeeded in giving her relief from her permanent itches, her swellings on the pasterns got better, no more mud fever and she was plainly relieved after the double dose treatment!

Ulrika and Jaz from Sweden