Yes, yes, yes and yes. So have many of us. The difference is that we don’t see that as some kind of MAGIC ERASER for the fact that we start ahead in every metric.
You do realize that you just used the “ I know some nice black peoples.” Card, right?
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When you work for an alt right whack job non profit, you know where your bread is buttered.
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I don’t know her but I read her words. I assume she meant what she said and I am appalled.
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Someone quoted me and asked why the black people’s opinions don’t matter when they say white privileged doesn’t exist, but it was deleted. I’ll comment anyway because that is a good question. I’m pretty sure they were referring to the videos of wealthy black people, like the one from Candace Owens, that people are sharing to defend their own personal beliefs. No one said all black folks are poor or that some don’t have it easy. Candace also is not out there protesting, and those protesting are the people we should be listening to. That’s exactly why black and brown people are still protesting for equal rights, and also why people are looting. We have to try and listen to the people the system doesn’t work for. Kimberly Jones did a great video that explains it perfectly from that point of view.
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No. Now if he wasn’t still getting a pension from the police and/or you gave me a few million other examples of Black men just like this, then maybe it would present a stronger argument for me to consider.
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Did I say you were white?
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Right, but why would you assume it’s mostly Black people who are poor? Many more white people use public assistance than Blacks, for example.
There is a pervasive assumption among whites, which shows itself in completely reflex assumptions people post about without even meaning to (and it’s ALL OVER COTH these days), that Black people all live in the “inner city”, struggle to make ends meet without turning to crime, are uneducated, don’t have stable family lives, etc.
These assumptions and biases have been baked into us over and over and over again by systemic racism.
This is how otherwise liberal white people become Amy Coopers, losing their minds at the sight of a Black person looking at birds near them, because it’s just not within their set of assumptions that a Black person could have a Harvard degree and be a notable inclusionary force in the Marvel-comics universe (as Christian Cooper is).
White people think their middle class Black friends are exceptions, and simultaneously believe that while their friend is an ‘exception’, the real majority of Black folks are back in the fantasized inner city collecting welfare and selling drugs.
Meanwhile, everyone has their “one Black friend”.
My best Black friend went to Columbia and makes a 7 figure salary working for a hedge fund in Greenwich, CT. He is my highest earning friend. I met him by sitting next to him on the train going to work. Obviously he is not representative of Black People As A Whole (nobody’s “black friend” or “black relative” is), but based on my personal interactions with him and other Black people in my personal and professional circles, I have every reason to believe that Black people are educated, professional class, and mid to upper class.
The racism that is baked into this country right under all of our noses is what tells us that Blacks live in poverty in the inner cities, and that our well to do Black friends are exceptions, and it is important for all of us to examine those assumptions and why we have them.
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I’m so baffled by this take.
“wHy WoN’t yOU lIsTeN TO thIS ONE Black persoN?!?!”
… Why won’t you listen to hundreds of thousands of black voices?
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@rah ; why should we only listen to those who are out there protesting? what qualifications do half of those on the streets have to speak on behalf of the black community about this issue? The majority of them have zero qualification or first hand experience. So the answer is not that we should listen to those who are protesting. You should be listening to all of black America on this subject; even those who have differing opinions of what you want to believe is right on this subject.
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And you know this… how, exactly?
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More truths. The Screenshot Racist doxxed upthread kept repeating “why don’t you go into their neighborhoods” and “why don’t you get involved in their community”…
WHY are you assuming I don’t have black neighbors? I honestly found this so weird.
She then went on to recommend they “quietly write their legislators”
2020 folks. Yikes.
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@snaffle1987 I would suggest letting readers know those are not your words instead of blatantly plagiarizing someone else.
I’m surprised it took so long for a poster to come screaming in because people do not like what their friend had to say in an CoTH piece. What’s more mind boggling is the attempt to change the subject to making horse shows more affordable. It’s not about access, it’s about what happens when folks get access.
Our sport is predominantly white, and everyone knows it costs a lot to play. However, when POC who ride and handle horses at Devon speak about what they have seen and why they made the decisions they have made, it’s best to stop and listen instead of crying about the fact that many people disagree with what Missy wrote and how dare we! I don’t need to know the woman to understand she completely missed the point of Sophie’s piece.
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We should be listening to the people that are protesting. The system doesn’t work for them and they have a bunch of people that have finally decided to join in with them to protest because the system doesn’t work for all Americans. I am also one of those Americans the system doesn’t work for and I understand there is a problem, again, with the system.
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Yeah, I technically live in the “inner city” (as much as this is possible in Buffalo, I guess? We have a “west side”, where I live, which is gentrifying faster than the “east side”) and have Black neighbors on either side.
Some COTHers would pass tf out and fear for their lives if they came to my neighborhood, imagining all sorts of ‘hoodlums’ and ‘thugs’ out to get them. Sometimes I get white Airbnb guests from Vermont who can’t handle it and they cancel their reservations after having a meltdown over whether it’s safe to park their car.
Meanwhile it’s perfectly fine and I love living here, walking distance from swank bars and hotels, a beautiful river, several museums, and a respected symphony orchestra.
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Bingo. Candace Owens is the climate denier of Black voices.
99.9% of scientists agree that climate change is real, but we’re supposed to give the three individual oil-industry funded lobbyists equal time.
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Umm, reports like this?
"The median household income[SUP]2[/SUP] for whites was $67,175 in 2011, as reported in the Census Bureau’s March 2012 Current Population Survey. For blacks, it was $39,760; for Asians, $68,521; and Hispanics $40,007.
Black and white incomes have risen since the late 1960s, but both have declined since 2007, the year that marked the beginning of the Great Recession. Since the 1960s the difference in black and white incomes grew from about $19,000 in 1967 to roughly $27,000 in 2011."
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013…-data-by-race/
Oh, I’m fully aware that there are more white folks on public assistance than POC. I liked to point that out to certain family members when they got on their “welfare queen” hobby horse.
There is a pervasive assumption among whites, which shows itself in completely reflex assumptions people post about without even meaning to (and it’s ALL OVER COTH these days), that Black people all live in the “inner city”, struggle to make ends meet without turning to crime, are uneducated, don’t have stable family lives, etc.
That’s a leap from what I asked about.
Socioeconomic data and analysis is way out of my area of expertise, though.
Ah, and I finally found the article that prompted my initial comment:
“A close examination of wealth in the U.S. finds evidence of staggering racial disparities. At $171,000, the net worth of a typical white family is nearly ten times greater than that of a Black family ($17,150) in 2016. Gaps in wealth between Black and white households reveal the effects of accumulated inequality and discrimination, as well as differences in power and opportunity that can be traced back to this nation’s inception. The Black-white wealth gap reflects a society that has not and does not afford equality of opportunity to all its citizens.”
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Would you listen to Mavis Spencer? She was out protesting with the Compton Cowboys.
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What does this have to do with your claim I said you were white? When did I say you were white?
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Absolutely, I would totally support her for supporting BLM, in a heartbeat! Go Mavis! However, i would not agree with her if she said she didn’t believe in white privilege. I can do both and neither one has anything to do with the other. Just wanted to add that I have no idea how Mavis feels about white privilege.
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