Spinoff: anatomic girths comparison

As promised, here are my notes on 5 kinds of anatomic/shaped girths currently available. Here is a photo of all 5.

Keep in mind that other than my TSF, I have not actually tried any of these girths on my horse! All the new ones were ordered in a size that hopefully would fit my mare, who is quite a bit smaller than your average WB (15 hands) and takes a 22 inch girth.

  1. Bit of Britain Bella Donna Short Girth (22", $202.95 from BOB) – if not for the shape, I would have rated this the highest. It is a new product and seems exceptionally well-made and should be comfortable for the horse, with its thick soft edges and ample padding. The outer leather is stiff. It also comes in havana as well as black; the one in the photo is havana, to match my saddle. 13 1/2" curve width and 3 1/2" curve depth. Because of the width, it would not be as good a choice for smaller/narrower horses. This is a new product and I hope that others will try it.

  2. Passier Anatomical Dressage Girth ($24" – measures 23" buckle end to buckle end, $246.95 from SmartPak) This is heavily padded all through the girth and quite stiff. 9" curve width and 2 1/2" curve depth. This is one I actually want to try on the mare, because the narrower center could work well for her. I also wonder if the different shape means it’s less likely to be too tight in one place and too loose in another, a problem reported with TSF girths (see below.)

  3. Prestige Anatomic Dressage Girth (60 cm/23.6", $213 from SmartPak). This is a thick and well-constructed girth with very stiff/shiny outer leather. 12" curve width and 2" curve depth, which are respectively too wide and too short for my mare, but as others have mentioned, this is a lovely girth. I have heard that it comes in brown, but haven’t been able to find anyone in the US selling it in brown.

  4. Smith-Worthington Curved Humane Dressage Girth (22", but measures 21" buckle end to buckle end, $152 direct from S-W) This one is more minimalist… beautifully made, but thinner and not stiff. I am a fan of humane girth systems; with no elastic it’s really hard to make them too tight, and the “swing bar” between the two billets means it will self-adjust to your horse. 10" curve width and 3 1/2" curve depth, shaped for a narrower horse. This is the other one I want to try on my mare, but it needs to go up a size.

  5. Total Saddle Fit Shoulder Relief Girth (22", $124.95 from TSF and available at some online stores too). This is the brand of girth I have used with my mare for the past year. It’s more padded at the ends, and good if not great quality leather. 12" curve width, 2 3/4" curve depth. However, as reported by many others, it is very tight on the straight edge, and gaps on the curved edge, leading to a horse who is wiggly and unhappy being girthed up. It’s also cut too wide for her. (I used my old Jeffries Symbian curved, humane buckle system, neoprene girth on her today, because we were trail riding in muddy conditions and even went into a pond, so not great for leathers. She was much happier, although it did not hold the saddle back as much as the TSF as it is not an anatomic girth.)

It’s been an interesting comparison, at least.

This is great! Thank you! Was just getting ready to order the Bella Donna but now am intrigued by the SW one and also the Nunn Finer Piaffe since it’s a similar system to the SW one I think

I have been using this Mondega anatomic dresage girth, a store brand of the Canadian chain Greenhawk. The catalogue photo, however, isn’t as useful as it could be. http://greenhawk.com/wdItemDesc.asp?strilhID=Web&strmdNumber=RIE3904&stricSKU=RIE3904

I’ve also put the Mondega anatomic jump girth on my jump saddle. http://greenhawk.com/wdItemDesc.asp?strilhID=Web&strmdNumber=RIE5226&stricSKU=RIE5226

These were the only affordable options I could find at the time (bought them both on sale). They have worked well enough for me. Big shoulder, wide barrel mare; saddles need to sit back off her shoulder but the girth wants to slide forward to her elbow etc.

These are holding up OK but aren’t going to be life-long pieces of equipment, so I am interested in better quality alternatives that aren’t too crazy expensive. I looked at special-ordering Passier and Stubben girths, but they were going to end up running in the $300 range, which seemed unnecessary.

The Smith-Worthington one looks intriguing. It looks similar to the Fairfax/Prolite narrow girth.

I really need to check on how my TSF girth really fits Criss. I’ve been using it for over a year and a half because its the most inexpensive one that kept my saddle from creeping forward. But if there’s something out there that would fit him better, I’m all for getting it as long as it doesn’t cost a small fortune!

Thanks for the photo comparison. I have been using the TSF girth for some time, and have not had the gapping issue that others have reported. It solved the saddle creep issue, and my horse seems to like it well enough, but the leather is breaking down. There are long cracks on the underside that are getting deeper, even though I take really good care of it (cleaned after every use, and I only use good quality leather products). I have never had a leather girth develop fissures like this, and even though I like the girth in general, I am not sure I would buy another one.

I am curious about the girths in your photo. For the ones with a pronounced bulge on one side - does the bulge point forward, or toward the rear? On my TSF, the bulge points forward. I have however seen riders at shows and clinics with various types of anatomical girths, with the bulge pointing backward.

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I am curious about the girths in your photo. For the ones with a pronounced bulge on one side - does the bulge point forward, or toward the rear? On my TSF, the bulge points forward. I have however seen riders at shows and clinics with various types of anatomical girths, with the bulge pointing backward.[/QUOTE]

You are welcome! Just looking at how different these are, fitting would be very much dependent on the individual horse, and not every horse has the issue with the TSF gaping. In fact, I suspect that mine did not gape originally, because the mare wasn’t uncomfortable in it. But now it does, and she is.

In general, one puts these girths on with the bulge facing forward, to hold the girth away from the elbows.

I really wanted to love the TSF but my horse hated it, so ultimately I did too. It also didn’t help much with the saddle pulling forward issue. After using my coach’s Fairfax for a by I broke down and got one. Luckily found one online for a great deal.

I have the Nunn Finner - Passage Dressage Girth. I really like it and have had it for a few years and used it on two very different horses. I never had any saddle movement (Trilogy). Leather is quality and nice, its well padded. I like that is has roller buckles and a robust elastic both ends. Its not bad price either range (135-170)
http://www.nunnfiner.com/The-Passage-Dressage-Girth-p/41passage.htm

i’ll be interested to hear about the smith-worthington girth…

my saddle actually slides BACK - so the saddlemaker is moving the front billet back.

which will probably put it nowhere his actual girth area…

most of the leather girths are way too thick for him…so ‘thin’ is good! and he’s one of the ‘both front legs out of the same hole’ types…

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i’ll be interested to hear about the smith-worthington girth…

my saddle actually slides BACK - so the saddlemaker is moving the front billet back.

which will probably put it nowhere his actual girth area…

most of the leather girths are way too thick for him…so ‘thin’ is good! and he’s one of the ‘both front legs out of the same hole’ types…[/QUOTE]

My mare’s initial response to the Passier girth seems to indicate that like your horse, she doesn’t like a thick girth. The Jeffries Symbian, which isn’t really anatomic, so the saddle slips forward, but seems to suit her, is a neoprene girth that is very thin and flexible. I am hoping that the Smith-Worthington one is thin and flexible enough that she approves. She’s also a “two legs out of one hole” type horse, not your typical wide sturdy Morgan at all.

You really should also look at the Delfina Anatomical Girth for $89. Similar to the County Logic and Total Saddle Fit Girth, but I think it is better than those two. Here is a blog post comparing them:
http://ahorseforelinor.com/2015/08/29/delfina-anatomical-dressage-girth-review/

VTO sells the Prestige Anatomical Dressage Girth in brown. Well, they call it “tobacco,” but whatever. I have the Prestige contoured girth in tobacco, and it’s darker than the photo shows, but not as dark as my saddle which is more of a chocolate/havana color. IME, it also doesn’t darken easily, but you don’t notice it that much unless you’re up close. It worked well on my last horse, but gives my youngster girth galls.

http://www.vtosaddlery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=VTO&Product_Code=PADD&Category_Code=

Reporting back to say that I am not sure a larger S=W will work. Had the same issue as the TSF, but possibly worse? Argh.

With flocking adjustments done yesterday, the saddle is at least staying put better. And that is with the Jeffries girth, which is her favorite, with no “tricks” like crossing the billets.

I still want to try the Passier one and am tempted to try the Fairfax if I can find somewhere that will allow returns. $400 is a lot to pay for something you’re stuck with if it doesn’t work…

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Reporting back to say that I am not sure a larger S=W will work. Had the same issue as the TSF, but possibly worse? Argh.

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bummer…the tsf girth gapped at the front pretty badly for me, too.

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You are welcome! Just looking at how different these are, fitting would be very much dependent on the individual horse, and not every horse has the issue with the TSF gaping. In fact, I suspect that mine did not gape originally, because the mare wasn’t uncomfortable in it. But now it does, and she is.

In general, one puts these girths on with the bulge facing forward, to hold the girth away from the elbows.[/QUOTE]

Not how/why I use one. I use it because my horses’ shoulder blades are far behind their girth grooves. Either the girth slips back behind the girth groove, saddle is pulled forward over the shoulder blades, or the two just pull against each other making it uncomfortable for the horse. There is a straighter shape with cutouts (or bulge, depending how you want to define it) which is for keeping girth away from elbows. Or the ones which are wider in the middle are just to distribute the stresses at the sternum across more area.

I caved and bought my PRE a Fairfax, narrow gauge.

:confused: Sorry to hear that about the SW. I’ve never tried the TSF girth, but I tried a similar offset girth (private label, saddle fitter) that gapped on my gelding. Didn’t seem to bother him, but I didn’t like it. It could be that he’s just gappy-shaped. He’s pear-shaped, with a relatively narrow chest (would definitely need a narrower curve to a girth) but very well-sprung so that saddles ride forward, along with having a forward girth groove.

i have tried a Prestige Relax and Performance, Passier Anatomic,and Fairfax on my KWPN.

he is a CUBE of a horse, wide and flat, no withers, wide rib cage and short(16.1hh and in a 16.5 saddle) with a super uphill chunky neck and wide shoulders… Think welsh sec A in 16.1hh version lol.

Hates the Passier, didnt mind the Prestige, loves the Fairfax. Its the only girth he isnt backy to girth up, and in every other girth the front of the saddle pad wrinkles up and moves which tells me the saddle is moving even if it doesnt seem to.
The fairfax is marginally tighter at the back but i think thats part of the design, so that the muscles can easily slide back and forth under the front edge?

My goodness the Fairfax is expensive!!! I’m looking for something for my very small, pear-shaped, baroque-ish horse who wears a 20’ (a 22" will work if it’s on the more compact side generally). Due to the way she’s built, just about every saddle (professionally fitted, flocked, fitted again…) winds up on her shoulders, taking everything with it. The TSF didn’t seem to have the right proportions for her. There doesn’t seem to be much available in a 20"!!! :confused:
Maybe we can try the Smith-Worthington… thanks OP, for posting this!

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Reporting back to say that I am not sure a larger S=W will work. Had the same issue as the TSF, but possibly worse? Argh.

With flocking adjustments done yesterday, the saddle is at least staying put better. And that is with the Jeffries girth, which is her favorite, with no “tricks” like crossing the billets.

I still want to try the Passier one and am tempted to try the Fairfax if I can find somewhere that will allow returns. $400 is a lot to pay for something you’re stuck with if it doesn’t work…[/QUOTE]

What size are you looking for? I’m in MA and have one you’re welcome to borrow, if you can wait a week until I’m back in town…

I will say that my horse really likes the Symbian, and does NOT like the fairfax. Valegro he isn’t, I suppose.