Thank you very much for you nice and friendly words.
And I really have to appreciate the words you adress to me. And it is soo true and I know that you always life your live and post your opinions following the motto: sometimes it’s best to keep these types of opinions private.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukka !
Interesting.
Back afew years ago a Russian Akhal Teke breeder (who relocated to TX) was offering “deals” on his fillies. He always had his horses way over priced (IMHO), but he did have some really lovely animals. And he almost NEVER sold fillies/mares. Whenever I would point out a filly I liked, he would say “not for sale.”
Well, he contacted me one day saying he would sell me one of the fillies I had liked, but I had to buy a crap
(again,IMHO)filly as well. The second filly was not what I wanted in terms of looks OR pedigree.
But, like you mentioned, the deal was all or nothing. I guess this is a common tactic for European buyers/sellers?
I’ve never heard of an American doing it…have you?
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But, like you mentioned, the deal was all or nothing. I guess this is a common tactic for European buyers/sellers?
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This is not a common tactic at least no in Germany if you are a private buyer. But if dealers and resellers are working together it is sometimes heard practise. It is done in the way that if lets say 5 horses are for sale and the dealers likes two they start dealing over the price and it ends up like You can have horse A for 15000 but only if you also buy b for 3000.
I would not say very very common, but not totally unusual and out of this world. As said between dealers and pros I have heard that happening, but ne ver witha buyer that looks for one riding horse.
Welsh Ponies an WBs I think can not really be compared. You can buy easily foals for under 200GBP that are really nice, one just needs to have an eye and has to look out. So just from the price for the individual not comparable (Yes I know they can be much more, but I also already bought a mare for 600GBP that was broken and really well ridden - super first ridden pony for a kid…)
Hey guys, new to the forum. Interesting points by everyone. I am noticing a German WB trend here with the discussion. Our farm imports Selle Francais filly’s from France that are bought in utero. We have deals with breeders that if the mare we are interested in has a filly we will purchase and import but if it’s a colt we let it go. Our key is to bring the top genetic jumper lines for breedinginto the US. This gives our farm the best mare base for breeding. This seems to be the best way to keep the “culls” question from arising and giving the best genetic potential for performance in the US. It is a bit risky because you don’t know if the horse can progress to the levels you want, however a lot of it is for getting the conformation, breed, and top bloodlines in the US.
Welcome!
This is an interesting business plan.
We did something similar once when a start-up. We did an in utero purchase on one of two mares in Europe, it being understood that we would take the filly if one was produced. Turned out that both were fillies and we chose the one that is now Ahsianita m2s (Ulysses m2s x Olympic Ahorn) and starting her competitive career after producing two foals for us herself- one a keeper filly by Canturo.
Hey Michelle and Monica at Sakura Hill farms. We saw you guys at the AHHA inspection getting one of our SF mares approved at Andres farm in FL. Thanks for the welcome.
Then, double welcome to you from both Michele and Monica!
Sometimes a horse that is called a “cull” might be a great horse for someone who doesn’t want to invest in a high end horse. Unless there are some glaring conformation faults the horse might do OK as a family horse or a special horse for a up and coming young rider. Then they could move up to a higher end horse.
However I tend to see this happen more than once in my life. I saw an importrd Welsh Cob stallion that I seriously considered a “Cull”. He was weak in the croup and threw that in his get. He was lovely to look at and had beautiful gaits but his weakness distracted from his strengths. The owner thought she could breed it out of his get. It doesn’t happen that way.
It is best to look for the best strengths and disposition and hope there are no hidden genetic faults.
The popular styles in horses swing one side to the other all the time. But the best conformation and disposition is what makes them good horses.
I have heard this about the Andalusians and Warmbloods and even the Minis.
It is best to look for the best horses to do the job you want them to do. Price is up to you and how much you want to invest. This is just my humble opinion so take it for what it is worth. …sadlmakr
Great post sadlmakr. A lot of the “cull” depends on the trends in the horse world at that time.
