I see that a few of the frozen semen importers are offering semen from Stakkato. Any one know why he is being offered now? Was it a problem with how he freezes/semen quality, and has that been overcome? Is there a particular type of mare that is best suited for him? Thanks for your input.
Don’t know anything about the frozen.
Stakkato is only 16.0 hands high. The offspring also tend to be small. You want to make sure the mare has size.
Dan
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Don’t know anything about the frozen.
Stakkato is only 16.0 hands high. The offspring also tend to be small. You want to make sure the mare has size.
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Yup Celle says the semen is good now.
Ditto on the size thing. Also mare has to have good type, good feet, and a strong constitution. He has had colic surgery at least twice, and other people have had similar experiences with his offspring. As well as his sire, Spartan, who stood here for a while, his offspring had similar issues.
Statistics from here is 53% of the mares still in foal in November and the average stats for all stallions was 84%.
Have seen a few Stakkatos, all of them smallish 15’9"-16’2", no lookers on the ground but when they started jumping they turned heads and seems to have a lot of heart.
I’d be very interested to hear what kind of mare is best suited to Stakatto and/or his sons, Canstakko or Ukato. Neither father (25%) nor either of the sons have a lot of blood (30%). Eric Lamaze’s new stallion mount, Scendix, has even less. Yet their type and the way they go under saddle is not that of a horse lacking blood.
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I’d be very interested to hear what kind of mare is best suited to Stakatto and/or his sons, Canstakko or Ukato. Neither father (25%) nor either of the sons have a lot of blood (30%). Eric Lamaze’s new stallion mount, Scendix, has even less. Yet their type and the way they go under saddle is not that of a horse lacking blood.[/QUOTE]
Stakkato goes back to Goldfisch II (sire of Gotthard) 3 times in the pedigree. I think that’s where the forward comes from. I would also expect a G-line mare would cross well with Stakkato.
Dr. Christmann actually recommends his son Stolzenburg due to type issues.
Also check out his son Stanley. Looks like part jackrabbit (in a good way).
http://landgestuetcelle.de/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=1&idcat=16&idart=1666
Dan
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Yup Celle says the semen is good now.
Ditto on the size thing. Also mare has to have good type, good feet, and a strong constitution. He has had colic surgery at least twice, and other people have had similar experiences with his offspring. As well as his sire, Spartan, who stood here for a while, his offspring had similar issues.[/QUOTE]
I happen to be one of the unlucky to find out about the colic too late. i had a 2 yr old Stakkato colt that required surgery twice in his second year of life. The first was successful and the vets put him down after they opened him up the second time. A very expensive lesson both monetarily and emotionally. Both of his colics were intussusception. I personally stay away from Stakkatos now. 
My own experience with Stakkato and his son Canstakko has been very positive. The mare was a Contender/Wanderer mare with lots of caliber standing about 16.1. The Stakkato son was 16.0 hands with perfect jumping technique and modern type. He sold at the fall Elite Auction. The Canstakko son out of the same mare was 16.2 at 2 1/2 yrs and of very modern type. He was licensed and sold last fall at the stallion licensing/market.
Stakkato is certainly not for every mare and there’s no guarantee you’ll get a good looking horse - but, darn, they can jump and have beautiful technique. He has over 1300 registered offspring, many competing at least nationally in Germany. So, I don’t think one can generalize about colic in the line. (Sorry about individual cases) I do think that some of the sons (like Stolzenberg and Canstakko (dam sire)) will be better than the father for type and height.
Spartan has a surprising amount of trakehner blood which also may add to the “forward” button?
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Spartan has a surprising amount of trakehner blood which also may add to the “forward” button?[/QUOTE]
Actually 2 out of the 3 Goldfisch II crosses came from the Spartan side of the pedigree.
http://www.horsemagazine.com/thm/2010/08/stakkato/
Dan
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My own experience with Stakkato and his son Canstakko has been very positive. The mare was a Contender/Wanderer mare with lots of caliber standing about 16.1. The Stakkato son was 16.0 hands with perfect jumping technique and modern type. He sold at the fall Elite Auction. The Canstakko son out of the same mare was 16.2 at 2 1/2 yrs and of very modern type. He was licensed and sold last fall at the stallion licensing/market.
Stakkato is certainly not for every mare and there’s no guarantee you’ll get a good looking horse - but, darn, they can jump and have beautiful technique. He has over 1300 registered offspring, many competing at least nationally in Germany. So, I don’t think one can generalize about colic in the line. (Sorry about individual cases) I do think that some of the sons (like Stolzenberg and Canstakko (dam sire)) will be better than the father for type and height.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight. In “Judy’s World” you can “generalize” about good traits and bad traits are based on “individual cases”?
I like to know the good, the bad and the ugly about a stallion before I use him for breeding. I only passed on my personal experiences and in this case they were ugly. I only wish I had as much info on the colic before I purchased this guy as I did after he was put down.
My Stalypso from this is year is small and has an - ahem-" personable" head, but has a great, even temperament and is a very good mover. Hope he can jump as well
We have bred to him and the result was a filly, which is now 4 years old. She is now a little above 16 hands and it was the mares first foal. Later on she got foals from Contendro (16.2 3 yo now), Calato (16.4 2 yo) and Cornet Ob. (16.1 yearling)
Stakkato tends to throw lower seizes, that is correct. Our mare has a good fundament, clean x-rays, good topline. If she is not under saddle a very coldblooded horse with a very calm temperament. Under saddle and in the course a great workethic. She is extreme careful, would not call her ugly, but beuatiful is someting else I guess.
You hear now and then the colic issue, also about his offspring. The mother had not a great canter or trot, Stakkato did not improve this.
Despite her size and limited canter, she is able to get the right distances in combinations. He is on the shortlist again for 2012 in stallionchoices. We are more then satisfied.
