Stallion ideas for a DIARADO mare

[ilka_tu]

Hi Everyone, looking for stallion ideas for my Diarado mare, she is turning 3 next year. It is not terribly easy to already define what I would like to improve as I obviously haven’t had a chance to ride her yet… based on my initial observations she has a fabulously balanced canter, even and large stride with a very powerful engine in the hind. Really opens the back up beautifully during free-jumping but the front could be quicker with better technique… Also it wouldn’t hurt to add a bit of lightness and spark. Character-wise, she is incredibly brave, maybe too brave and therefore not careful enough at times…

Pedigree:
http://www.horsetelex.com//horses/pedigree/1687941

Photos:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/EquiClubZamlyniec/photos/?tab=album&album_id=775577389122203
Surprisingly my Diarado mare is VERY tall - at the time the most recent photos were taken, she was 168 cm tall and she has reached 172 cm by now! That’s thanks to her dam, all of her babies are super tall, with no detriment to their health and structure luckily Need to take better photos on hard ground as her left front is on a bit of a slant; I think the neck could be a bit longer though…

I was thinking of Stakkato blood for the quick front but I am not convinced… I am breeding for myself or for sale, a horse for 1.30m and above. I may have some Comme il Faut frozen left in my tank after I cover my Contendro I mare, could be interesting adding more Ramiro blood and would certainly add enough spark!

I am open to ideas! I have been thinking about this for months but can’t come up with a choice that I would be 100% happy with… I’ve thought about Numero Uno, Balou du Rouet, Stakkato Gold, Cornet Obolensky, Coupie, Chacoon Blue, Comme il Faut or Comilfo Plus Z - as you see, lots of ideas but no conviction I could really use some advice!

Wishing everyone a Happy New Year

[Didi]

She certainly is cute! Why are you thinking of breeding her so young (just curious)? What discipline are you breeding for? What temperament are you looking for?

[ilka_tu]

Thank you for your response Didi! We typically inseminate our mares/purchase inseminated mares from Germany when they are 3,5 years old. Some we wait with longer, if we feel they need more time to mature. They foal at the age of 4,5 and then post weaning, we start working with them at the age of 5 - I don’t believe that’s particularly early, I see in Germany they often already work under the saddle at the age of 3 and this way it gives them more time to mature before they start work. Along the way we see how the foal develops and have a good idea of what the mare produces by the time we retire them for full time breeding as their first offspring is already working under the saddle - it is a common practice in Europe. Definitely breeding for show-jumping I hope to achieve a willing, brave, ambitious horse with good work ethic.

[Didi]

Thank you for your response! That is all very interesting, and makes sense. As someone in the Hunter world, it is not what I am used to, but, then again, I am not a breeder- just an owner - so it may be the practice here, too, as far as I know. Have you considered Darco blood? I would be curious as to what others have to say about Darco’s get as I have a Diamont de Semilly mare I may breed in the future.

[ilka_tu]

That’s an interesting thought, I’ll certainly take a look at Darco progeny. In Vechta this year at the Stallion Days I saw Dallas VDL (son of Douglas who is sired by Darco) and wow was I impressed!!!

[Nod_Hill_Farm]

My Connor mare has a snappy front end, and her colt seems to as well. Connor is Casall x Corde. If you can’t access Casall directly he seems like a pretty decent option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhiGTXoFEeE

http://www.horsetelex.nl//horses/pedigree/357845

https://www.facebook.com/GDChevauxdesport/videos/1053520768090790/

[Nod_Hill_Farm]

My Connor mare has a snappy front end, and her colt seems to as well. Connor is Casall x Corde. If you can’t access Casall directly he seems like a pretty decent option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhiGTXoFEeE

http://www.horsetelex.nl//horses/pedigree/357845

https://www.facebook.com/GDChevauxdesport/videos/1053520768090790/

[ilka_tu]

Thank you for this suggestion, I like it a lot I breed Hanoverian so unfortunately I am unable to use Casall. I have looked at some of his progeny, such as Cascadello I, but wasn’t entirely convinced for this mare… Connor looks very interesting! From the info I’ve managed to find, he passes on nice temperament - is that the case with your mare and the colt?

[ilka_tu]

Is it possibly too much Cor de la Bryere in the resulting pedigree?

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/dbtestmating.php?&sireid=10515671&damid=11247592

[trilogy]

what about Chacco Blue

[ilka_tu]

I’ve actually struggled to locate a suppier of his frozen here in Europe… I might’ve been looking in all the wrong places but that’s why I haven’t pursued this option

[Nod_Hill_Farm]

Not to my mind, but ask other breeders with more experience. I look at Connor himself, and they obviously felt that was not too much, and he seems to have turned out well. Adding another cross back 5 gens would not seem to tip the balance markedly.

My mare lives in Europe so I don’t have personal experience with her or the colt. By all reports she is lovely to work with, and she earned her premium, as did the colt.

[Nod_Hill_Farm]

Not to my mind, but ask other breeders with more experience. I look at Connor himself, and they obviously felt that was not too much: he seems to have turned out well. Adding another cross back 5 gens would not seem to tip the balance markedly.

My mare lives in Europe so I don’t have personal experience with her or the colt. By all reports she is lovely to work with, and she earned her premium, as did the colt.

[ilka_tu]

Yes, fair point on the cross. Thank you so very much for this suggestion - I wouldn’t have thought of it myself and it is my top choice at the moment. Much appreciated

[Hawkridge]

I’ve seen quite a few talented Numero Uno progeny…I’m really, really liking what I see

[ilka_tu]

Same here, I am also of fan of his and I’ve seen some fantastic babies. On the other hand I have also seen some overly sensitive slightly psychotic types terrified of their own shadow and lacking a fighter attitude from what I have observed the second type were produced from already rather sensitive mares. I can’t quite define my young Diarado yet in terms of character - one day she’s super brave but another she’s as quirky as they come. Knowing her dam very well and how sensitive she can be, I prefer to wait, get to know this young one better before I possibly add too much spark for me to handle I might be completely wrong as this is based on what I have seen around but my experience is that they come in some many shapes and sizes and a lot of it is largely dependent on the mare. Maybe someone has had other experiences?

[Justice]

I looked at a Chacco Blue x Diarado and it was pretty fabulous!

[magnamity]

I think adding Ramiro blood is a great idea. My mare is by Ritual, so she is grandsired by Ramiro. She has everything you’re wanting to add…carefulness, super quick front end, and plenty of spark.

[ilka_tu]

Ahhh, I have been trying to locate Chacco Blue frozen but it doesn’t seem to be easily attainable…

In the meantime another interesting opportunity presented itself… BIG STAR. I saw this stallion live in Aachen in 2013 and was so impressed! Not to mention Rio :winkgrin: Previously the costs of importing his semen from the UK were very high but as of this year a clinic started to carry it here in Poland!

Maybe it’s not a ton of Ramiro blood but he sure is an impressive stallion and possibly an option worth contemplating?

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/dbtestmating.php?&sireid=10566585&damid=11247592

[kathrinef]

They took back all the Chacco Blue frozen after he died. So there isn’t any to find on the open market, unfortunately