My Egyptian Arabian mare and I are schooling second level. Her 7 year old half warmblood colt scores in the 70’s and has had horse of the year awards. The proof is in the performance. My mare is not a premium mare by warmblood standards, but she is breeding stock and prepotent. Her colt has the Arabian show ring charisma and charm with the warmblood abilities of his sire, Sinatra Song. The latter has a lot of the same type as my mare which is why I chose him. It is breeding like to like. I’m an older rider and depend on their good minds to keep me safe, as well as enchant me with what they are. I’ll be riding into my 70’s, which are approaching for me.
I bred my Arabian mare (Polish/Crabbet) to Sinatra Song also. The result was a stunning colt (now gelding) with a lot of presence, but will not be over 16h high. He excels at dressage (scores in 70s) and has very nice form over the fences - loves cross country.
I believe Rosenthal has been crossed to Arabs quite successfully.
I’m following this post closely, as it’s neat to hear from others interested in this cross, and to hear about which lines seem to cross well.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any warmblood Arab crosses from the stallion Bonne Vivant? He’s approved GOV, and a GORGEOUS mover. I would love to know if any sport foals have been produced, and other knowledgeable breeder’s opinions on what sort of mare might cross well with him. Every time I look through the GOV stallion list, he grabs my attention. I assume they thought a lot of him to extend approval to him.
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I really do love the Arab x WBs when done well, as Arabs tend to shorten an overly long WB and add refinement. Do you find that there’s a niche market for these guys? I’m genuinely curious, as I have seen very few that were truly done well (however I would sell a kidney for that Landkonig filly pictured above!)[/QUOTE]
I think so. The Arabian Sport Horse world is growing. Many shorter ammies want a smaller, lighter horse, but one whose gaits can allow them to compete in the USDF ring as well as the Arabian Sport Horse ring. And IMO, the Arabian mind brings some “try” and personability to the table that help anyone wanting a horse who wants to have a full career in dressage.
That said, the individuals in the Arabian/WB cross vary a great deal. A beautiful individual is wonderful. But you will have to sort through a lot of them who are tight in the shoulder and back and a tad downhill in order to find a good F1 cross. (The good news is that these smaller, lighter horses seem to have an OK time using their core to raise up the down-hill front of their rib cage… so you have to watch the horse move, not just stand there.) Oh, and I don’t think the Arabian feature of an active tail bodes well for the modern USDF dressage ring.
I’m not in a great part of the country for this, but I have been looking for one of these for about 9 months now. OP, if you happen to get a good one, think hard about selling it.
I have several of these, including mares sired by Lankoenig, Grandom and Budweiser. I haven’t had one yet that I wasn’t happy with. But then again, I’ve got Arabian mares that aren’t tight in the back or stuck in the shoulder. MVP, perhaps we should chat?
I think the thing is to compete your horses and not just do in hand classes. If you have an Arabian or Arabian X winning in open shows, that is something. Yes, training is expensive. But the more Arabians are competed and bred for competition, the better for the breed.
I went back and looked at the post in the other group and it WAS from Golden Oak I believe. Sadly, I think their gorgeous young filly passed away. They said in the other post that the Arab dam was one of the highest scoring Arabian mares ever inspected by AHS… I’m not sure if it was the cross with Escudo II, or the quality of the Arabian mama… But whatever the case the result was gorgeous.
Tobruk Farms also breeds some really nice Wb/Arab crosses.