Stallion suggestions/mare question.

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Would love to hear what everyone thinks about breeding an older mare. Would be breeding for a personal riding horse.

I have a lovely, 19 year old Trakehner mare that I’m considering breeding late this summer or early next spring. She’s had a foal at 3 in Germany, and her former owner did an embryo transfer on her when she was competing. She’s apparently a fabulous mom. She’s a 17.1hh, chestnut Trakehner mare. Evented up to Prelim in her teens with former owner. Very athletic, beautiful mover, wonderful work ethic and is naturally forward. If the vet gave her a green light, would you have any reservations breeding her at this age?

Her pedigree is below photos attached as well.

I’d like to breed her to a stallion that improves her step a bit, improves her form over fences, and is known to produce very quiet, ammy friendly temperaments. She can be a bit hot and reactive but not unmanageable. Stallion will need to be large as well, and any bling is a plus, mare is solid chestnut. Amazing is currently at the top of my list. Would be breeding for a hunter. Interested in hearing your suggestions!

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Bump

[weixiao]

Do you have a photo of her papers or anything with the correct breeding? The dam there was born in 1871…

Do you know what her other foals turned out like and who they were by?

My hesitation about Amazing would be what I mentioned in another thread- I’d be very wary of crossing Balou/Baloubet lines with a mare that is already a bit hot and spicy because sometimes that toughness can come through and while many have great minds and are very ammy friendly, I have seen plenty that are not.

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Yes, I’ve attached her papers, I believe that the information associated with the dam entered there is wrong. Actually I just looked and the sire information is incorrect as well. I’ve removed the link. The papers attached have the correct pedigree.

Are there other stallions that you’d suggest that might be a better match?

[acottongim]

She is lovely - what is her name? She seems familiar to me :).

[TatteredDaydreamer]

@acottongim

She is lovely - what is her name? She seems familiar to me :).

Thank you! Her registered name is Havana’s Orphan Annie. Morgan McCue owned and evented her and did very well.

[acottongim]

That’s right! She’s a nice mare :).

[TatteredDaydreamer]

@acottongim

That’s right! She’s a nice mare :).

Thank you! I adore her.

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Bump, would love your suggestions and thoughts!

[PeteyPie]

@TatteredDaydreamer

Yes, I’ve attached her papers, I believe that the information associated with the dam entered there is wrong. Actually I just looked and the sire information is incorrect as well. I’ve removed the link. The papers attached have the correct pedigree.

Are there other stallions that you’d suggest that might be a better match?

Was the link you removed from allbreedpedigree.com? I just fixed it for you. I hope I fixed it anyway; I spelled your mare’s name Havanna’s Orphan Annie:
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/havannas+orphan+annie

[PeteyPie]

I don’t know if my post is just delayed or if it disappeared, so ignore this if it turns out to be a duplicate:
I fixed the allbreedpedigree listing of your mare, assuming her name was spelled with two ns, as in Havanna’s Orphan Annie, not Havana’s Orphan Annie.

But… from what I can read on your pedigree which you posted, Havanna’s Orphan Annie is out of Havanna, a 1965 mare sired by Matador and out of Harda. That would mean your mare was born when her dam was 36 years old??? Is the correct birth date listed for Havanna?

[TKR]

I can’t read her pedigree. But if you want to use a proven stallion - who competed for a number of years in Germany GP jumping, has a stellar pedigree, proven sire of top competitor in several disciplines and is quiet and goes around a course in lovely form and an even pace - check Hirtentanz. Just brought here to the States in the last few months. The owner is Joe Pimentel/Aqua Farms Trakehners and does a good job for mare owners. Herby is also a dressage quality mover. Good luck!

[garland]

Your mare was bred by New Spring Farm in the USA and had a foal from one of their stallions. I agree that Hirtentanz would be an excellent choice!

[weixiao]

I don’t know as much about the TRAK stallions.

If Platinum vom Rappenhof is still available he is the most huntery that I know of.

I also really like Halimey Go and the ones I’ve seen by him. Might be worth checking out. Maybe not so huntery though.

I also love Tatendrang but I’m not sure you’ll get a hunter type.

Maybe Inamorato? I’d check out the lineup at Royal Palm Farm. They have some nice stallions and might be able to point you in a good direction.

[TatteredDaydreamer]

Thanks everyone! I’ve decided against breeding her. Too much risk. I’m going to look for a well bred youngster when she’s ready to retire. Thanks!