I am looking at a Starman/Prinz Gaylord/Lucky Boy mare as a broodmare prospect & I am wondering if anyone here has a Starman mare that they are breeding? If so, have you found a particular bloodline that nicks well? This mare was a sucessful hunter. Thanks.
I have ridden a two babies that came out of a Starman man. Both are stunning and by Olympic show jumpers so I’m sure that has a lot to do with it as well. 
Someone else posted recently about looking for crosses for her Starman mare I believe, so try a search as well.
If I found a Starman mare, I would start breeding jumpers again. I would love to have one of his daughters.
And yes, as I recall, another COTHer has one. I would search under starman and see if you can find the thread.
Ooohhh…I think I know which mare this is. She is lovely. I would scoop her up in a hot second. :yes:
I bred a Starman mare out of a Lucky boy mare…she produced extremely well with Grande Saber/Grundstein
I also have a Heisman…half sis to Grande Saber. Heart of Gold and scope over the moon!
Lovely mares TWF! I am waiting on a video of this mare, but it looks like she may be coming to live with me. I am so excited. Now who to breed her to? Does anyone else have Starman offspring or Starman mares that they have bred?
I’ve heard that the Starman offspring can be extremely difficult - verging on dangerous - and the gelding I had experience with certainly was. Has anyone else found that to be true? Perhaps the mares have better temperaments?
The mare that I knew was lovely. Athletic, good work ethic…sensitive, forward, and tons of scope. Very good jumper. I don’t remember anything difficult about her other than since she was so athletic, when she did buck or play…it had more gusto than less athletic horses…but that is true with any of the truly nice athletic horses that I’ve know. She was not mean or dangerous at all. But she was well started and always in the hands of good experienced horse people in very consistent work.
These boards can present a very skewed view of horses’ temperaments. So while constantly proclaiming the wonderfulness of a stallion can be misleading, judging a stallions offspring on two horses can also be damaging to his reputation. A horse is only as good as the people who produced him and even professionals can mess up a horse in their haste to make a dollar. Then the dam has as much or more to do with the temperament of the offspring as each animal has two parents. Just saying…
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Starman mare to Mezcalero
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The mare that I knew was lovely. Athletic, good work ethic…sensitive, forward, and tons of scope. Very good jumper. I don’t remember anything difficult about her other than since she was so athletic, when she did buck or play…it had more gusto than less athletic horses…but that is true with any of the truly nice athletic horses that I’ve know. She was not mean or dangerous at all. But she was well started and always in the hands of good experienced horse people in very consistent work.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that describes my mare to a T. She is by Starman out of Forever Tango (TB). She is now 15 and I just “retired” her from a long and successful jumper career (she’s still happy and completely sound) to breed her to Mezcalero. I’ll find out soon if she is in foal or not. She has always been very sensitive in a self-preservation kind of way and super forward, actually looking for the next jump on course. (If she could tell the number boards apart, I would not be necessary in a jump-off 
And while her playful bucks are rather spectacular, there is not a mean bone in her body and even when she spooks she doesn’t bolt or do anything dangerous. She’s playful, kind and very respectful on the ground. The farrier and vet’s favorite to work on.
If anyone knows of a Mezcalero foal from a Starman mare, I would be very interested to hear ! First foal…for both of us !
Best to all.
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I’ve heard that the Starman offspring can be extremely difficult - verging on dangerous - and the gelding I had experience with certainly was. Has anyone else found that to be true? Perhaps the mares have better temperaments?[/QUOTE]
I have never heard that about Starman offspring, personally.
Thanks for the insight everyone! This mare is still with her breeder, an amateur owner who showed her in the hunters. Started her herself, owned her mother who did the A/O jumpers & her grandmother whom Hap Hansen showed in the jumpers. I doubt she’s got a bad temperament if an ammy is the one who has brought her along. I am still waiting on a video, but I am leaning heavily toward purchasing her the more I think about it. Now to choose a date for her.
Oh, I think I know this mare too! She was super cute in her pictures.
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Thanks for the insight everyone! This mare is still with her breeder, an amateur owner who showed her in the hunters. Started her herself, owned her mother who did the A/O jumpers & her grandmother whom Hap Hansen showed in the jumpers. I doubt she’s got a bad temperament if an ammy is the one who has brought her along. I am still waiting on a video, but I am leaning heavily toward purchasing her the more I think about it. Now to choose a date for her. :)[/QUOTE]
I would snap that mare up, especially with a good damline like that!
Sweet, Sweet, Sweet
I have a Starman gelding and he is the sweetest horse I have ever known. Never a dirty stop or a nasty temper. More like a giant labrador!!::
I tried to get a Starman however my mare didn’t “like” the frozen semen. I would love to have one. TWF your mates are beautiful
I rode a Prinz Gaylord gelding…what a jump! Would love to find that line too!
One of my pet peeves, after breeding and studying pedigrees, bloodlines, breeding nicks and youngsters that “show” who their sire or dam is to those who know what to judge, and breeding for 40 years - it is REALLY dumb and unfair to judge a stallion by one or two or even a handful of their produce. All things considered, the damline is a TREMENDOUS influence and how they matched up. It’s about the ENTIRE pedigree and the matches, like a roadmap - NOT just a sire/dam. I’ve seen that happen so many times, mostly by riders or trainers whose exposure to a bloodline may be quite limited and an opinion is formed based on too little information. The handling of a youngster early on and particularly when started and schooled is also a huge influence. That’s why I’ve always been very picky about matching my babies with a new owner/rider/trainer - hell, I even ask where they will board and who is the vet if they are local! I’m old enough and have done it long enough to be that anal - my farm, my decision. Not producing as much now for a number of reasons, but what I do produce is carefully thought out and I’ve had up to 5 generations foaled here or elsewhere, so I know what to expect. Unless you have ALOT of experience with the produce of a stallion, don’t judge by one or a few babies! JMHO
