Stop it with the "heart horse" thing. No, really. Stop it.

[QUOTE=Laurierace;7765143]
You know, you never know what other people are going through. Throwing something out there knowing full well that it would likely hurt people’s feelings is just mean. It’s almost like you were taking a poll to see how many other mean people are out there too. If you don’t like the word, don’t use it. I personally don’t like the abbreviation DH and instantly translate it to Dick Head in my mind. So I don’t use the term. I don’t feel the need to belittle those that do however.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Laurierace. I don’t use the term “heart horse” but I have friends who do. I have been really close to some animals, but also say that a new horse, or a new dog or cat or man, is not a replacement of a loved one who has died. Love for another fills a void but cannot replace a loved one. I think some people have more emotional connections with both animals and people than others do. And people feel different things for animals and people. So I really don’t care if people use terms that I do not use for animals and relatives. If little things like the use of the term heart horse bug someone, then that someone needs to go elsewhere. Cothers should keep using the term if they feel like it. But now I’ll always look at the DH term and see “dick head.”:lol:

[QUOTE=AndNirina;7765550]
I have absolutely no problem with loving favorite animals. I’ve been lucky enough to have two horses in my lifetime who were amazing (along with countless others I’ve ridden who I loved as well). I’ve had favorite dogs that I’ve gone to ridiculous measures to keep comfortable in old age.

It’s not so much the concept of these things, it’s the term “heart horse” that makes me want to stab myself in the eyeball. “Heart Horse”, “fur baby” and “Sunday Funday” all make me cringe in the same way as when I hear someone say “exspecially.” Nails on a chalkboard. Loving your animals too much? No such thing.[/QUOTE]

I bet you don’t like “Caturday” either then? smirks

[QUOTE=NoSuchPerson;7765403]
OK, now I’ve actually got time to sit down and type a more substantial post. This has been a really educational discussion and, it seems to me, a classic example of misunderstandings caused by people using the same term to mean different things.

When I hear “heart horse,” I think “Black Stallion Syndrome.” I think of that woman whose horse is a snapping, stomping menace, yet she insists, “Dobbin is my heart horse, he would never hurt me.” I think rampant anthropomorphism and rose-colored glasses. I think about people saying, “if anything ever happened to my horse, it would rip my heart out and I would just die.” Because of that, I would never use the term “heart horse,” and when I do hear it, it makes me roll my eyes.

I would like to say I’ve been surprised at the venomous nature of so many posts here, especially since the topic is something so…trivial. I would like to say it, but I won’t, because hey, this is COTH. This is how we roll. :lol:[/QUOTE]

FYI: This is why I like to let potential customers talk. Everything can sound oh-so-reasonable and just fine right up until "If anything happened to my horse, it would rip my heart out and I would just die!" or "My horse is my LIFE!"

Sorry, but I can’t be responsible for that, and knowing that things can and do sometimes happen, you’ve just selected yourself out of the Rational and Well-Adjusted category I seek. When I have a serious, possibly even fatal equine problem to handle, the last thing I need is the owner going totally off her rails.

So, “Sorry, that stall’s just been filled.” :wink:

The other ones who amaze are the characters who fill an inquiry page on NewHorse.com or EquineNow with about 3,500 words of their personal drama–their failed relationships, ill health, former riding wrecks and childhood issues, and then expect someone to consider them for a job/boarding/training?
Some of the stuff I read is truly beyond belief.

I’m more than willing to use another term if heart horse bothers so many people. But once-in-a-lifetime horse (dog, cat) doesn’t do it for me because all of my animals are once in a lifetime - they each have their own personalities and quirks and I will never have another just like them. That would be the literal definition of OIAL.

So then, what? What term would you use (acknowledging that there are apparently those of you who don’t believe in the concept at all, and thusly would object to any term)?

I understand heart horse to be shorthand for “my favorite horse who is special to me above other horses.” I’m curious whether OP would have a problem with someone saying they have a “one in a million horse” or the “horse of a lifetime.” Seems similar to me without the simpering quality of heart horse.

Though heart horse isn’t a term I’d ever use, I get why people use it. I really dislike, however, the term “fur-kid” or when people express that they are a dog/horse/guinea pig’s mommy. Animals are wonderful, and the relationships and bonds with people can be extraordinary. They are animals, though, and not people. One of the reasons I no longer buy Blue Buffalo pet food is because they refer to “pet parents” in their advertising, which totally, completely, 100 percent turns me off.

I clearly use all kinds of terms that bother other people. Laugh.
Other people use terms that I am not fond of too. Shrug.

I do know that there has been one horse (and one dog) that will always be ‘that’ horse. The horse that I am willing to say that if I can only afford one that horse would be the one, even though it would mean no longer riding as he is retired and not really sound.

If you like the term heart horse for that, fine.
If you do not like the therm heart horse for that, fine too.

Having a title for it does not make people making foolish decisions any better or worse. I think there seems to be some confusion in the original post about them being the same thing. Just because someone calls it their heart horse does not mean that same someone is going to make their family go bankrupt for the animal. There are just as many people who make foolish money decisions associated with their animals who do not use silly descriptors for their animals.

I have no problem with the term, and I do not equate with “doing irrational things for my horse.” To me it means this horse/dog/cat and I have a special bond, deeper than with my other animals. I’ve had one horse, and won’t get another one. Do I call him my heart horse? No, but he is.

The word I hate is rescue. Someone adopts a dog or cat from a shelter and it immediately becomes “I rescued this animal.” The animal may not have been in a life or death situation or abused, but people think because you didn’t buy the animal through traditional channels, it is a rescue. And if you did buy an animal through traditional channels, you are a bad person because you didn’t RESCUE an animal.

I would like to update my former response, since the discussion seems very focused on the words “heart horse,” rather than just the concept.

I never referred to King as my “heart horse.” I suspect, like someone else mentioned, he would have bitten my butt if I’d ever called him poopsie, lovey or “heart horse.” He had NO tolerance for baby talk AT ALL. If I would ever slip into it, he would just turn his head away and tune me out. To irritate him, I would sometimes call him Sugar Bear, just to see him sneer. (And yes, he did sneer!)

My term of endearment for King was “buddy.” He was my buddy. And I was just his kid. I was positively, absolutely NEVER his “mom.” I was his second chance to have a little girl, even though I was really way too old for the job – but then, so was he!

So yeah, in the conceptual manner of things, King was my “heart horse.”

But I always did and always will think of him as my buddy.

Just to be clear. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=peedin;7765761]

The word I hate is rescue. Someone adopts a dog or cat from a shelter and it immediately becomes “I rescued this animal.” The animal may not have been in a life or death situation or abused, but people think because you didn’t buy the animal through traditional channels, it is a rescue. And if you did buy an animal through traditional channels, you are a bad person because you didn’t RESCUE an animal.[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with “rescue” when someone adopts from a shelter as most shelters do in fact kill animals, so adopting an animal from a shelter is basically saving it’s life. Even no kill shelters while providing a safe harbor often only provide a cell, so even adopting from one of those, the adopter is often rescuing that animal from life in a cell. I have a friend who runs a no kill humane society in the county I grew up in and she has had certain cats and dogs literally for years in that shelter. It’s very sad. Yes, it’s better than being killed but it truly is not much of a life. So no, I don’t have a problem with the word rescue in those contexts.

Last weekend we took in an adult Siberian Husky female someone had listed on craigslist. Nice guy said she just showed up on his street like someone put her out but he didn’t have the funds for shots and getting her spayed. I suspect she has pyometra and am having her spayed today. But did I rescue her? No. Did I save her life? Quite possibly.

I’m totally with everyone who hates furkid, pet parent, furbaby, etc. Beyond the ick factor, they demean the animals. I don’t consider myself in any way their parent. My animals all seem like adults to me (once they are grown) and I don’t need to run all aspects of their lives. Figure they have their own stuff to do, their own lives outside of my orbit. When we are together, I have to be the leader and if I make a decision on something, they have to go along. But that doesn’t make it a parent/child relationship.

Crosses FrenchFry off “People to make my Life Support System decision” list.

Also leaving my millions to my dogs (only)and specifically mentioning FrenchFry to be left out of said Will or she only inherits if gets a job answering the Dear Abby syndicated column for the rest of her life.

[QUOTE=prairiewind2;7765782]
I’m totally with everyone who hates furkid, pet parent, furbaby, etc. Beyond the ick factor, they demean the animals. I don’t consider myself in any way their parent…[/QUOTE]

For me, I was just surprised how common this was and how odd people find me when I don’t call my horse my ‘baby’ or call my self her ‘mommy.’ I like my horse quite a bit, but I have not ever had the ‘heart horse’ experience that others describe… not sure if I ever will…

Although, we adopted a dog off craigslist that for him I think I am his ‘heart person.’ When we came back later in the day after had decided to bring him home, he hoped in the car with us and never looked back. I felt bad for the previous owners :(… they obviously had treated him well but they just did not have the time for the high energy pooch he turned out to be which is why they decided to adopt him out! That dog freaking loves me. He follows me all over the house, if I am upstairs so is he, if I am downstairs so is he, outside so is he, giving kiddo a bath he is laying on the floor in bathroom next to me, taking a shower he is laying outside the bathroom door, if he can see me but can’t get where I am he whines… He can be so annoying that I have actually had to teach him the command ‘Back Off.’ :smiley:

[QUOTE=AmarachAcres;7764422]
I’m conflicted on this one. It’s a GREAT thing to ground our kids in reality. But there is beauty in seeing animals as more than just livestock.

You don’t have to believe in a heart horse, and of course your human family comes first. But let me tell you, true friends understand the importance of riding time. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t drop everything to run to them in need and we sure dedicate time to those relationships. I still have a special horse, and there is nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you about having one that is special-was not saying that at all. I have one that is very special to me, to the point where someone else would say he is my “heart horse”, but I just think he is an awesome horse with whom I have a great relationship. My dad had the same thing in a QH stallion he had. I think it is the name I object to mostly

[QUOTE=Chall;7765795]
Crosses FrenchFry off “People to make my Life Support System decision” list.

Also leaving my millions to my dogs (only)and specifically mentioning FrenchFry to be left out of said Will or she only inherits if gets a job answering the Dear Abby syndicated column for the rest of her life.[/QUOTE]

Now that is uncalled for.

I don’t mind the term. I understand it to be the “this animal and I have a bond that goes beyond the realm of typical animal-human bonding and interaction”.

I think I’ve had two: my Arabian gelding, who was my first horse, and my Lab. Both of them and I had a bond that even outsiders could see. Sometimes I think my current Mini gelding may be one, he’s awfully close. But not quite the same relationship Geymirad and I had.

Both of them I lost to catastrophic illness. Geym colicked. Vet worked out of her truck, no clinic. We could have hauled him 3 hours to Ohio State. Heart said go, head said no. I would have willingly spent every last dime I had. But he was already checking out and asked to be released. He pressed his head against my chest, asking for me to make it go away… I let him go.

Forrest had hemangiosarcoma. We were at mini Nationals, and he started to get nosebleeds. Not drips, but soak-a-towel in minutes nosebleeds. A friend who’s a vet examined him and offered to euth right there, but also stated we could try X and Y. I really didn’t want to lose him so far from home, in the middle of the show. (And what DO you do with a 90lb dead dog five hours from home?) We do the meds, nosebleeds stopped. For three months. Came home from feeding on Sunday evening and he had started up again. Took him to the vet, she said, “Well, we could do this and this and this and this. You can spend $XXXXX of money. And it won’t change a damn thing.” We let him go. Five days before Christmas. It was the hardest thing I’d ever done. He and I spent almost every minute together outside of work. I caught him as he was being born, and I held him as he left this world. It still tears me up.

Someone else, earlier, posted exactly how we tend to define “heart horse”. It’s not something that is definable, and it’s something that is easily recognized by people around you. It’s just a term to describe a very close bond that is just different from others. It’s the “barn is burning, you can only save one, who is the one you save” and it’s the FIRST reaction, not the logical reaction, not the “smart choice” … it’s the one that you know would devastate you more than others if they passed. That doesn’t mean you don’t care for/love your other horses/whatever. It just means something really special happened. I used to refer to the one main horse as my “soulmate in horse form” … and no, I don’t believe in only ONE soulmate. I still hope to find that same connection with another horse. But there were a lot of things that made it happen - his intelligence and personality, the things he had gone through, the things I have gone through, finding each other at the right time, etc. It was a trust/partnership thing - and something that was very, very obvious even to the most cynical of people around us. Heck, even an old-school “horses don’t have feelings” cowboy type sat and watched “Heart Horse” one day, as he stood tied as I worked with other horses, and said “I don’t believe horses can be jealous, but I swear that one is jealous of what you are doing.”

Some men get it too, maybe not the term, but the meaning behind it. My farrier, a male, has assured me that if I just open myself back up to that deep of a relationship, one of my current horses is ready to step into that place. My “heart horse” has been gone 2 years … but it’s still tough to open up that much again. Yes, I was devastated and a wreck when he died. It derailed me for a very long time. I still struggle with getting teary eyed when I talk about him. I’ve lost other animals and pets, and work with a LOT of horses, and I tend to be pretty rational and good about their losses. Pirate knocked me on my rear for a very, very long time.

I lost my husband when I was 29. Now, 11 years later, he’s been gone longer than we were together. BUT I still miss him and get teary every now and then. I’m in the camp above - I’ve dated, thought about remarrying, and will not rule it out, but I just haven’t yet found what I had with him. Doesn’t mean I haven’t loved some of the guys I’ve dated in the past 11 years. It’s just NOT the same, and to me I just try and remind myself how lucky I was to find that kind of a love/connection and to have happiness, rather than dwell in what I’m missing.

Even saying that - just because someone else’s “love” isn’t the same, doesn’t mean it is wrong. I tend to agree though - if the term bugs you it’s probably a personal reason. Maybe you haven’t experienced the connection, maybe you aren’t open to it, maybe you have and feel stupid about it because we should be more rational, who knows. But when words bother us it’s usually more about us than the people saying the words. I know, for example, I HATE seeing “DH” as well. But that’s because I was first exposed to it while going through a very, very nasty breakup with a guy that I was about to marry. I couldn’t read it without thinking “damn husband” and being very, very cynical about love in general and doubting that people truly LIKED their significant others, much less thought of them as “dear”. It made my skin literally crawl and I wanted to scream at people who used it about how fake they were. But THEY weren’t the problem. I was.

I have witnessed a bond between horse and human that was DEFINITELY heart horse. Human, even at retirement, even having to move home to be with children in her golden years, still provided for the horse. Horse was old too. This horse was the one that human, in younger years, walked 3 miles during a flood to save, leaving 2 dozen plus behind because she could ONLY save one. Doesn’t mean she loved the other horses less, just means that was THE ONE. Horse was grumpy and opinionated, made her preferences for people very known, and KNEW her person. When her person died, (or in horses’ world, just stopped visiting), horse became more and more withdrawn and difficult, ultimately becoming very unliked by most people. Horse died within a year of owner dying (unrelated, was hit by a car - no, I don’t believe a horse can commit suicide or “pine away” LOL). The common words you’d hear from people that knew the person and her horse was that it was the best thing that could happen for both, because horse was never going to be the same with another person. It does happen for both.

Do I use “heart horse”? No, because I think it sounds stupid. I have owned more than 50 horses in my lifetime. I’m sure it’s much more, I never counted. They were always, my kids horses, horses that needed a tune-up, or horses that just needed a place to land for a little while. I now have “my horse”. I’ve had him 4 years. He came to me injured as an almost 2yo. The plan was rehab, start under saddle, sell. He was rehabbed and started, but for the first time I had “my horse”. He is the one I’ll grow old with and retire with. I do have a filly by him but if it came down to one or the other it would be him. I have no plans to ever get anymore horses, for any reason. I have “my horse”

I’m old, bitter, cynical, unromantic, understand that horses are livestock, would not hesitate to choose saving a human life over an animal’s, and yet I had a ‘heart horse’.

I love all my animals, but one or two seemed to be just a touch more special. I didn’t plan it that way, wasn’t looking for it, and yet there have been two animals, one horse and one dog, with whom I had a deeper, more emotional bond than all the others.

Both are gone now, because being the old, bitter, cynical, rational animal owner that I am, I knew when it was time to give them release from their failing bodies. I also never lived in my car, ate nothing but ramen, or spent more than I could afford on them. Doesn’t mean I don’t miss them, or still shed a tear now and then for them.

‘Heart’ animal for me is short hand for favorite, because the word ‘favorite’ just doesn’t seem special enough.

I do however, despise the term furkid. It ain’t a furry, four legged child that doesn’t speak clearly; it’s an animal.

Argh. Have been traveling and off COTH, and am astounded at the responses here. I never said or meant that a deep personal connection with a given horse (more than the usual love for other horses) was dumb, irrational, wrong, or anything else people here have assumed was the intention.

For that I do apologize to the extent that I chose words which made you feel threatened or judged for having that relationship.

I said I was sick of the term (but should have clarified “because it’s used nearly constantly here”) in the same way that I’m sick of All About Bass. Would saying I am sick of hearing this song inspire anyone to believe that I am against the concept of pop music, have never enjoyed a single pop song, or that I am judging those who still want to rock out to that song? In this regard, it never occurred to me for a second that this leap would have been made, or I would have been super clear, or better yet, just not responded to avoid triggering the general, personal animosity displayed here.

I DO still agree with the OP that in some cases, it seems to be thrown in the mix as emotional justification of a questionable (IMO) decision that would benefit from more rational consideration. Similar to when there’s a relatively petty dispute-- boarder finds their horse without hay in front of them and get histrionic that not having hay 24/7 is a SAFETY ISSUE and justifies not giving notice.

In those limited cases the shorthand Safety! Heart horse! seem IMO to be offered as a way to ward off any questions / debate. And in my post I did offer a very specific example to demonstrate that this was my beef with that use of the term, not the concept itself.

My DINGDING post was also very specific, quoting the post that at least one poster was using the term in a way to designate that heart horse people must love their horses more than I do because I don’t tend to use the term. Upon re-reading that post, I don’t think my interpretation / reaction to what this poster was saying was far off-base. But given how wildly misinterpreted my posts apparently were, of course it’s possible I wildly misinterpreted that one too.

Like most of you, I do happen to have that a deep personal connection with a special horse. (and I don’t know how to keep bridges from falling down). Not going to change anyone’s convictions here or take back what I said, but just wanted to explain my intentions that have been misinterpreted.