Studbook sBs - Belgian Sport Horse

[risingstarfarm]

The short answer is that the two studbooks reflect regional differences. The BWP is associated with the Flemish/Dutch speaking part of Belgium, while the sBs is associated with the French speaking part of Belgium.

In addition, while there are many bloodlines common to both registries (i.e. Darco, Nabab de Reve for example), you’ll find more French blood in the sBs and more Hanoverian/Dutch blood in the BWP.

The sBs is actually the older of the two registries and was originally called Royal Belgian Sports Horse Society and this heritage is reflected in the brand, which is the letter B topped by a crown.

[Anne]

Thanks, Ronda. I know which way I’m going with my (hopefully!) 2012 foal. Any plans for branding sites/inspections in the US?

[risingstarfarm]

Lots of good wishes for your mare and her pregnancy

The Belgian judges are planning on attending the final three days of the 2011 70 day test to inspect stallions. We hope that there will be enough foals to support a small inspection tour in 2012. Branding is absolutely possible - you can make arrangements with me following the registration of the foal. So far, all of the NA registered foals have been branded.

[sporthorsefilly]

[QUOTE=risingstarfarm;5742727]
"I can only tell you that in Europe, the BWP is recognizing the approved sBs stallions. I don’t know the position of the BWP-N.A. in this matter.

One thing is for sure : thestud-book sBs and the sBs-N.A. recognizes the stallions approved in all the WBFSH member stud-books. [/I][/B][/QUOTE]

I think it will be very important for mare owners to recognize that they can bring their mares and foals sired by stallions Approved in many of the WBFSH member stud-books to sBs.

No one should be trapped into registering only with the registry that the stallion is approved in. No one should have to drive hours to get their foals approved either, that is way to stressful!

sBs will be a breath of fresh air and thankfully run by a professional horseperson.

[JWB]

Hey Rhonda,
Understanding that sBs in the US is a work in progress, will there be awards programs and such for sport? How about performance testing for mares, or special honors along the lines of the select and elite mare programs?

[risingstarfarm]

THe short answer is yes.

Regarding awards programs - we’ve already been discussing working with the existing award programs with USEF, USDF, USEA, etc. To be worthwhile, sBs NA will have to reach a critical number of registered horses in North America - which has yet to be determined. Award programs are an important part of the Registries and we would not want to deny people the opportunity to participate.

Regarding Labels, Testing, etc. for mares. There is already a program in place in Belgium and it will be available for NA based mares as well:

“The label E.O. (Elite Jumping), R.O.+ (Recommended Jumping on individual way) or R.O. (Recommended Jumping) are award by Stud-Book sBs to the best mares and/or fillies registered by birth by sBs or registered at the moment of registration of her foal by sBs, based on their own performances or on the performances of the mother, the product(s) and/or the collaterals.”

http://www.sbsnet.be/pdf_files/sBsLabelObstacle_en.pdf?PHPSESSID=d81668accfb01d4f418a77aca7930fd5

There is also a health label: http://www.sbsnet.be/pdf_files/sBsLabelsante_en.pdf?PHPSESSID=d81668accfb01d4f418a77aca7930fd5

We have also discussed a designation/scoring system for mares that are not just registered, but inspected as well. Certainly, it is possible to discuss incorporating MPT type evaluations at these inspections in the future.

Suggestions are welcome!

[time_fault]

Inspections up yet?

[risingstarfarm]

Foal inspections are by mail for 2011. Stallions will be inspected at the 2011 70 day stallion test at Silver Creek Farm. Stallions that are not participating in the 70 day test are invited as well.

We hope to have sufficient interest in 2012 for a small tour.

We will offer branding for foals in 2011.

I’m available for questions and clarifications.

[Hilltopfarmva]

My 2011 Valentino Z filly is going sBs and next years two Valentino Z babies and the Figaro B are going sBs. Thanks Ronda for bringing this registry here I’m really excited about this registry and I love the french lines for my TB mares!!

[Jos]

As prostaglandin could potentially be used to cause an elective abortion in a human, I doubt very much that you are going to find any legitimate company in the developed world that is going to market it without a prescription…

[risingstarfarm]

The first package of documents is going out to Belgium at the beginning of next week - please contact me if you need a foal declaration form or membership form - or if you have any questions

ronda@risingstarfarm.net

[system]

Zangersheide

I am absolutely fascinated by this registry the Zangersheide.
How do i find one here in the US? My trainer and my daughter would love to see one and have one for my daughter. She is a wonderful rider and currently is leasing a 17’2 Holsteiner.
How do we begin a search for one ?

[sporthorsefilly]

You should contact Ronda ronda@risingstarfarm.net

She owns Valentino Z (Z=Zangersheide) http://www.risingstarfarm.net/horse%20pages/Valentino%20Z.html

[Anguissette]

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Perhaps you would want to communicate directly with BWP in Belgium on this matter.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to let everyone know that I took this advice and was contacted this morning by the BWP secretariaat Francine Simons. She indicated that my 2012 Colorado Skrodstrup foal out of a BWP mare could indeed be registered BWP NAD. :yes:

[vandenbrink]

Dare I ask the question…does North America need yet another warmblood breed registry???

It’s nice to provide plenty of choice to breeders, but many studbooks now struggles to get enough members and foals to pay for very costly national inspection tours. People have to drive many hours to get to an inspection site adding tremendous cost to a breeding industry with tighter and tighter margins.

There has to be a better way.

[Mini_Me]

Dare I ask the question…does North America need yet another warmblood breed registry???

'fraid so. Especially if dealing with the BWP. Their run like a club not a registry with the rules changing as they go & customer service is a joke. Anguissette’s response is typical of the way they run things here which is sad as in Europe the BWP is well respected. Here not so much. If the people in power don’t like something, they simply tell members what they want & totally disregard rules, regulations & policies. After spending MONTHS dealing with them & trying to get paperwork completed, I gave up. The individual that Anguissette was dealing with actually got quite nasty. <shrug> I’ll happily take my business elsewhere.

[I]It’s nice to provide plenty of choice to breeders, but many studbooks now struggles to get enough members and foals to pay for very costly national inspection tours. People have to drive many hours to get to an inspection site adding tremendous cost to a breeding industry with tighter and tighter margins.

There has to be a better way.[/I]

If the registries provide good customer service, they have nothing to worry about. They will survive. But some have become arrogant & self serving with no regard to their members. The cream will rise to the top. Those that choose not to follow their own registry’s rules & regulations, make rules up as they go along, offer poor customer service, etc., will hopefully fail. It’s all about choices, isn’t it? sBs have proven to be conscious of their customers’ & treat them appropriately. I know where I’ll be registering my Belgian bred horses from now on & will quite happily pay for that privilege ;).