Stupid question: What is a German warmblood?

Just what the title says. I know what the various registries - Holsteiner, Hannoverian, etc., are.

But a horse advertised just as a “German Warmblood” - is that also a registry & if so, could someone provide a link to a website so I can educate myself?

Thanks.

http://www.zfdp.de/

What not again said. However it should be advertised as German Riding Horse as that’s what the ZfDP registered stock are called here. There is no such term as a German Warmblood referring to any specific registry. Any horse registered under one of the German breeding associations and falling under German Riding Horse would qualify to be called ‘a’ German Warmblood. But there’s no ‘the’ German Warmblood if that makes any sense :slight_smile:

I have seen horses from the smaller, lesser known German registries referred to as “German Warmbloods”.

Lots of folks in N.A. have never heard of Mecklenburg, Baden-Württemberg, Sachsen-Anhalt, Bayern, Berlin-Brandenburg, etc.

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What was Poetin’s birth registry?

I have my Winner stallion advertised on the Warmbloods forum as a “German Warmblood” simply because “Polish Warmblood” wasnt an option on that forum! :lol:

And I figured with Mecklenburg, Brandenburg and Hanoverian in his bloodlines, it was an “acceptable” stretch to call him that

I did find with investigating his bloodlines a few months ago that a lot of the smaller, lesser known German registries formed the basis of the Wielkopolski breed in Poland as well as the Slachetna Polkrew breed so even if the horses were 70 or 80 or 90% mixed German WB blood, they were registered and known as Wielkopolski’s instead …

Makes things confusing for sure!!! :smiley:

I think Poetin was a Brandenburg, but I’m not sure…?

Down Yonder’s explanation matches my thoughts also – there are so many smaller registries, which many people have never heard of, it is easier to call them “German Warmbloods”. Also, on some of the sales sites like warmbloods-for-sale, there is no option for alot of the smaller breeds, so they end up lumped together under the “German Warmblood” category.

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Yes Poetin was Brandenburger.

I have two geldings out of an imported Trakehner mare by imported sires. One was sired by a Westphalian and the other sired by an Oldenburg. I call both of them German Warmbloods.
They have PHR numbers. I’ll look into that new registry for NA and will enroll them, if it makes sense.

It did not make sense to register the two geldings as Half-Trakehners.

If these were fillies, I would have gone in a different direction, of course.

Any “warmblood” is a crossbred. If it’s from a certain country, then it’s a crossbred from that country. :slight_smile:

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Zfdp fulfills the legal requirement of stallions having to be licensed to breed under EU/German agricultural law. Maybe that is an oversimplification.
I have only ever heard them referred to as German Riding horses over here.

hmm.

Aw, crap.

You all are making perfect sense to me. Which confuses me more than ever!

I was looking at an ad for a mare who is described as a “German warmblood” & the only specifics are for a couple registries for which she is approved as breeding stock - GOV, RPSI, etc.

From what I can see in the pictures, she is lovely.

So now I’m wondering whether I should just be happy she’s approved GOV, etc., or whether I should be asking specific questions of the seller (and if so, what those questions would be).

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Hello! I have a mare who is also supposed to be a German Warmblood, but I am also having a hard time explaining her registry info to potential buyers. I attached an image of the registration certificate-thingy that came with her–she is by Silvio but doesn’t look like the mare’s breeding is specified? Is this a “German Warmblood” registry certificate? Thanks in advance!

Bailey's registration page 1.pdf.jpg

But there’s a difference between a lineage of crossbreds created in a country and an F1 cross bred there.

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I think I need to clarify this all.

We have a breed called deutsches Sportpferd - that is a fairly new registry and was created by combining the registries Berlin-Brandenburg, Sachsen-Anhalt, Sachsen und Thüringen. The are using the brand that was used in eastern Germany (a snake with an arrow from right to left). That is the registry of Poetin. Deutsches Sportpferd would translate to “german sporthorse”.

Than someone mentioned ZfdP that is actually Zuchtverband für deutsche Pferde this transalated to Breeding registry of german horses. No warmblood in there as they have in their registry a lot o horses inclusing ponies, also e…g. and an artificial breed called barock pinto.

My guees:
Naturally if someone has a warmblood from Germany or of a german registry he/she may say “I have a German Warmblood” if he she is sure people have no clue what a westfalian or hanoverian etc. may be.

A registry that would translate back from German Warmblood does not exist. But there are some sort of thoughts to cooperate and than act with the Name German warmblood - but I doubt that this will not happen as I guess all the registry heads will not want to leave their chairs…

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