Sub-zero booty wash --is there a better way?

The elderly, retired gentleman in my barn has diarrhea each year about this time. Because I know it will happen, I generally get him on bio-Sponge at the first sign --a low daily dose, but it clears up quickly. This year I wasn’t quick enough and by the time I had him symptom free, he had a solid green tail and his hind legs were coated an inch thick --yet, you ask, how can that be, knowing what a dedicated horse owner I am? Well, it’s currently -10 here --and has been in the sub-zero range for about a week. I was hoping the weather would warm above freezing so I could give him a booty wash --but not predicted to do so. And so, here’s what I did:

Safety first: I needed to make sure he was as dry as possible before he went out to pasture --my barn is not heated; it is just as cold inside as out; so I took an arm-load of towels with me --considered a hair dryer but didn’t. Might do that if there’s a next time. And my safety --wet hands in sub-zero can frostbite in minutes–so heavy gloves with heaters in them for me --two coats --one to get wet, one to put on when done.

Next:warm water --no water heater in my barn so used a plug-in kettle that heats two quarts at a time quickly to a boil. Added that to a half bucket of cold water --the result was warm water – shampoo–thawed in house --Cowboy Magic --and conditioner -leave in kind.

Took off my coat (had second coat under) and gloves --dipped tail and held it in the water until it thawed and the green ice became liquid. Massaged in shampoo and started on hind legs and butt cheeks with sponge and warm water trying to soak off build up. Eventually was successful --added shampoo and massaged in. Back to tail. Fresh bucket of warm water and rinsed, then rinsed the legs and butt. Then a second bucket and rinsed again. Took towels and pressed and dried frantically --but tail was starting to freeze --rubbed in conditioner. Massaged in conditioner into butt cheeks and down to hocks (already some hair loss due to poop freezing on it) --quickly wrapped almost dry tail top in a leg wrap, then braided the rest now almost stiff and freezing bottom --hope for the best --could not handle a rubber band as my hands were numb, so used a piece of tape --might not stay in–oh, if you have wet hands, don’t grab the stall handle that’s metal --you’ll stick to it. Use a towel. Final rub to dry as much as possible, and sent the now clean old gent out to his hay and pasture buddies.

I suppose his tail is now frozen again --but his legs are dry and clean so that’s a plus --other than a hair dryer --any other suggestions to make a booty wash more humane and pleasant? He was eating the whole time I was washing, so I don’t think he was in any discomfort --but to go out in the cold with even a damp place on one’s butt can’t be good. I’d have left him in, but as I said, my barn is no warmer than the outside --and I thought moving around would be better than standing in his stall. He does have a 3 sided shed he uses and he’s totally blanketed. I actually think that’s part of the problem --the tail flap keeps him from lifting his tail out of the way . . . anyway, ideas appreciated!

Can you remove the tail flap? other then that you did great pretty hard to change things. When there’s no heated barn to work in. Just get the old guy as dry as possible with towels. Yeah numb hands don’t work to well i totally get that. We’ve been well below zero now for several day highs are below zero,plus double digit subzero wind chills a few days.

My barn is only like 5 degrees warmer than the great outdoors.

Aside from the hair dryer, the only thing I might add would be a small plug in space heater - even if you can warm the wash area a few degrees it will help.

Can you put his tail in a tail bag? Then you could just remove the soiled bag and replace with a clean one periodically. That might be easier than having to go through the washing. Of course that won’t keep the muck off his booty, but maybe removing the tail flap will help some too.

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MissAriel --I will try a tail bag! He has frozen tail from his dock (underside) to the tip (fetlock length). I’ve watched him go --and while the manure itself is firm and green, after the elimination, he squirts green liquid with some force --not sure what it is --or what’s causing it --well, suspect it’s alfalfa hay --but none of the other geldings have the problem --and I know he probably has digestive anomalies --he was our stellar event horse for many years and a race horse before that --Lord knows what the stress of 20 years of competition did to his insides --and the 1000s of miles in a horse trailer . . .staying different venues every week . . .he has few teeth now and is a bit senile --I feed him with a nosebag because he seems to forget why he’s in a stall standing over food --at least with the feedbag his food is literally under his nose. He’s such a sweet horse --don’t mind cleaning him up. I will see if I can remove the tail flap.

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I have a mini who has a similar, but less intense, version of this problem – firm manure, but a squirt of liquid at the end that creates a matted mess from the underside of his tail down to his hocks, sometimes fetlocks. He’s a hairy little yak, of course, and he gets itchy once this whole situation dries, and tries to get his tail over a fence board and rubs his butt. Hard. I can keep it under control by using unscented baby wipes 1-2x day, and afterwards rubbing the exposed skin with coconut oil. The oil gets onto his coat, too, which makes it easier to brush/wipe off any new gunk. (He’s being treated for the poo-problem, this is just about addressing the butt-problem!).

Foxglove, I can’t improve on your system at all, except to agree that a space heater or blow dryer might help a bit. I have a barn w/o power or water and this sort of washing in winter is a huge challenge. I post the mini-solution simply for anyone else pondering these questions.

How ventilated is your barn? I’ve used one of those propane heaters that looks like a jet engine in the barn before to get things just warm enough to work in, but we’d have it blowing down the aisle which was left open. Better than the small space heaters.

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I think you’re talking about a salamander heater, If I had one, I’d probably use it --but they are costly for a problem that (I hope) will only be temporary. My barn is too open and big for a space heater —but the hair dryer is do-able. Right now, we may have resolved the situation as his booty was poo-free and his tail wrap and braid still in place. If his meds kicked in, we are over the hump!

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If he has really long hair between his legs like some of them get (between his hock and “cheeks”) try taking clippers and shortening it. I had and older mare and a mini with the same problem who had both har quite a coat with long guard hairs, I turned the clippers over and ran them lightly over the area. Not clipping short because its winter, but just enough to get rid of the excess length. It helped some with the manure caking issue and it also helped with the drying. And the hair dryer is a good idea. The old mare I had came to me with her tail bobbed off because of the diarrhea, poor things tail looked like a bottle brush :(. (Not recommending that!)

My mare gets a disgusting, poopy tail as soon as she wears a blanket. I’m in Canada so it’s frozen here for at least 5 months straight and I don’t have an indoor wash rack. I started putting her tail up and it helps significantly. Not perfectly, but her legs and tail stay much cleaner. I don’t use a tail bag, but a braid with a Vetrap/duct tape covering.
Directions here: https://grayflannelhorses.blogspot.ca/search/label/tutorials

shortenmyreins: off to the -6 barn to braid up tail following your instructions!!! Thanks a ton!

I’ve had success - FINALLY - this winter, with an aged gelding who has had a case of winter diarrhea for the 6 years I’ve known him. Winning ticket: coastal hay. I don’t feed it normally, because of the risk of impaction colic. But I tried it after learning that “rough” (even mildly stemmy) hay can be really irritating to some horses.

This guy normally has good pasture and eats all the orchard grass he wants, but once the grass is gone even the orchard is too tough for his tummy. Enter the super-fine coastal and - voila! - no more poopy butt. This after trying MANY other options, from hay cubes to BioSponge.

After you wash him down, can you coat his buttocks with baby oil, olive oil, bag balm, or something similar so that the next clean-up job will be easier (and prevent scalding)?

You might want to try some kitchen gloves to keep your own hands protected while dipping in and out of the bucket.

You are such a great horse mom to care for him this way! :love-struck:

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My aged gelding had the same problem. Triggers for him…lack of short stem forage (i.e. hay in winter that he can’t chew very well) and forage that has too much sugar (grass after a rain in spring). Feeding him one meal that has several pounds of a short stem forage (beet pulp, pelleted timothy) helps to alleviate the juicy farts. I keep his hind legs and around his butt clipped.

Thank you, jawa, BigMick, and Melissa Van Dorrin! At this point we have the diarrhea under control and the tail is still clean but frozen in places. I have braided and wrapped it to prevent any more necessity of washing. Will apply Desitin to the now hairless booty cheeks–thank you for all suggestions!

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My gelding would have particles of poo encrusted to each strand of hair, similar to the nits of lice. I’d have the hardest time getting it truly clean. I found that if I generously applied baby oil to his tail and let it sit for several hours to a day, it would be easy to wash and get all of the encrusted bits to let go without hours of picking.

I’m glad to hear the diarrhea is under control.

Get thee to your local farm store and purchase a pair of snowblower gloves–they are fleecy lined heavy rubber gloves that will save your bacon playing with water in cold conditions. If you buy big enough you can get glove liners inside them which REALLY help.

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Second (?triple) the hairdryer! I use a 3 tube tail bag that is then braided and looped and taped. I find I have less hair breakage than just braiding and taping