Taking out a divider in a slant load

hi

Still trying to find my dream setup and when reading another thread about LQ trailers, someone mentioned they had a three horse slant but she took out the first divider for her large horse. Her other horse goes in the last stall and she doesn’t have a tack room back there, so he’s comfortable as well.

I’m a tall lady (6’) so big/long horses are just a fact of life for me. I have two horses, and my tallest is 17.2h. I was pretty set on a straight load Hawk from the East Coast (I live in CA) but people here have been telling me I will regret not having three stalls. I’m nervous to take on a full 2+1 as my first trailer, that seems big. I will be getting a full-sized 3/4 ton truck either way, you’ve all convinced me of that! :winkgrin:

What I’m wondering is 1) if its absolutely safe to take out a divider? 2) if it’s comfortable for the horses to be in a diagonal box if its more spacious? I’m worried my horse will be too long to comfortable rest across one of the dividers and will miss the support of them as we navigate the roads. Not sure if that makes sense?

I also kind of like the idea as well that in a pinch, I can haul three horses. I just look at my big guy scrunched in the slant load of our commercial hauler and I just know he would travel better with more room.

And obviously, specific quality brand recommendations that are insulated for the CA heat are welcomed!

thanks so much!

I had a big Oldenburg mare who was a very nervous passenger. We took the front divider out for her so she didn’t have to be squished in (which she hated), and she did very well up there. Even eventually stopped sweating in the trailer LOL.

no problem pulling the dividers in a slant… one thing ours had was a front escape door that we could offload the number one horse without unloading the others

I have a Logan 3-horse slant and I was able to “customize” various configurations when I ordered it. I chose to have the front-most divider be a stud divider, and this allows me to put hay or a tack trunk safely in the first stall if I’m hauling only two horses. I also do not have a rear tack, so that leaves a larger stall at the rear of the trailer. It also means that all horses can be turned around for unloading so there’s no backing out.

My trailer is extra tall, extra wide, and all the horses I’ve hauled have been comfortable. Overall, I’ve been very happy with the quality of the Logan.

(I also made two changes to the “dressing room” – I had the triangle of space that’s on the right-side of the trailer separated from the dressing room by a wall – this gives me a space to keep tools and buckets and other stuff that I’d rather not have messing up the dressing room. Finally, I had a door added to the driver’s side of the dressing room so that it can be accessed from both sides.)

Consider a 2+1 trailer. We have very large horses so I designed our trailer and 4 Star built it using a 5 horse slant box (7 wide, 8 high). My two rear horses stand straight load (rear ramp and rt. side 4’ ramp behind dressing room.) We front/side load and back into forward facing stalls. If I have a third horse, that one side loads into a 4’ wide front slant stall. A 4th horse can also stand slant between the 2 straight and one slanted. You could start with a smaller trailer if you only have 3 horses. I LOVE this trailer and would never have anything else!! FANTASTIC to work out of showing or foxhunting!!

I did it for my 17.2h horse. He preferred to have his butt parked on the wall, so I made sure to tie him long enough to stand in the back of the expanded slant stall. Even with the extra rope length he couldn’t get his head under the divider.

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Consider a 2+1 trailer. We have very large horses so I designed our trailer and 4 Star built it using a 5 horse slant box (7 wide, 8 high). My two rear horses stand straight load (rear ramp and rt. side 4’ ramp behind dressing room.)[/QUOTE]

I hear you, I think a 2+1 is probably the most flexible trailer you can buy. And I love that like a slant load, I can load by myself by using the side ramp and backing horses in.

I’m just worried that for a first trailer, it’s going to be too much length. I’m wondering if the compromise would be to get a 2+1 without a tack room. I will actually be transporting very little more than a trunk and on days where I transport three horses, I can find someone else to take my trunk. But then it just seems like I should just get a smaller trailer to start with. GAH, someone make this decision for me please!!! :eek::lol:

I have a 3 horse slant and only one horse. First stall has stud wall and I use that stall for hay, shavings, feed, etc. The 2nd divider was going to be tied back all the time anyway to give my horse more space (even though she’s only 14h2) for long trailer rides. I read that the hinges will actually wear out if the divider is tied back all the time and only supported by the hinges instead of the hinges and latch. So I took mine out entirely.

I also own a 3 horse slant. 7’6" high, 8 feet wide. With 9 foot LQ. As mentioned above I also opted for the full stud wall partition in the first stall (which has its own exterior door opening). I use that to store hay, shavings and my motorized scooter while away at the shows.

The remaining 2 rear stalls I can use as individual slant stalls or remove one partition and make that rear slant REALLY large. Almost big enough for my 16.3 hh mare to turn around in but not quite. No big deal she just backs off anyway. It is nice to have the option of trailering 3 horses instead of just 2 if needed.

I LOVE this trailer but selling now to downsize to a smaller trailer without the LQ that I don’t have any need for any longer. Now retired and downsizing everything “horsey”. :slight_smile:

Mine is a Sooner brand. Top interior LQ package, fully insulated for the cold sadly (not the heat) here in Ontario.

There are lots of trailer configurations out there. Have fun looking!

You didn’t mention if you were looking at bumper pulls or goosenecks but be aware that sway is largely a function of weight distribution. The farther forward you can place your weight, the better.

We have larger horses, 16-17H+, very full bodied, long in body and necks. They go 1300 to over 1500 pounds, wear 84" blankets. Necks are about 4ft plus head. Not talking about a slender, short-bodied TB with long legs.

We have “tried on” a few slant load trailers and do not like them for our large horses.
They are cramped even with two stalls, because not as much of the slanted space is usable in the stall. You really only have length in the one diagonal corner-to-corner measurement, the other corners are not as usable for a big horse, rump doesn’t fit in that angled area.

I really would suggest you also “try on” a trailer with your large horse, before any purchase. You can see the actual fit, maybe horse has to keep neck folded to let the divider shut, even with two stalls of room. No fun traveling like that! Real easy to make a horse a bad loader in a stall that doesn’t fit well.

Another thing the Farrier has noticed, is a lot of right front hoof issues on horses traveling a lot in slant loads. We figure the right front is ALWAYS working while hauling, doing corners, stopping, holding horse back from the sideways motion of travel. That leg never gets any rest while trailer is in motion. Some hauling home to MI from Florida, owners hurrying to make it one long haul, have the horses come off the trailer lame on that RF. Depending on how many miles horse travels, his career might be shortened, wearing out that RF.

We haul our horses in straight load stalls. They haul facing front and rear, have no issues with long rides. Stalls are wide, they have room to move forward or sideways, to rest various legs during travel. They can use all of the stall, no angled corners or butt bars. Plenty of room for heads and necks to relax at full length.

We will manage with the longer trailers over slant loads. As long as the horses ride well, come off happy, they are ready to perform when they get to the show.

Totally agree with goodhors. That’s why we opted for the extra 8 foot width in our slant trailer. The extra length between a 7 foot and 8 foot wide trailer is huge.

I much prefer the slant horse ride to a straight horse ride though…and so do my horses it appears. Much happier especially over longer distances but each person has their own opinion. I personally will never go back to a straight load again.

I have a 7’6" tall 7wide 3 slant with a dressing room. 2 horses --1 is freaky deaky claustrophobic 16h 1200 lbs size 84 blanket…TBx sporthorse…he’s big, he’s a princess about trailers. Old retiree babysitter is 16.1 1600lb draft mare size 86 blanket, old fashioned percheron X belgian grade mare, Big built like a 1600lb bull dog. She’s 26 yo.

I have a Adam j2040 excursion. I’ve measured my slant stalls and they made the first stall have a wider rump angle to help out with the fact that 1st stall has thal wall next to them and a bit narrower front angle by escape door. The drop down bars also angle out to give bit more nose room. The Draft mare has ridden up there for 3hr trip x2 (6hr total) while I have the princess pea horse the whole rest of the box. I felt kinda bad, because just loaded in there she could stand and balance as needed, put her head down etc but it wasn’t giving her the kind of xtra room I’d have prefered. But she was fine—I found over the road she liked too brace her butt on the back wall and she had plenty xtra head room under those circumstances. —So, it was not my ideal, but in practice it worked out fine for her—also she’s got srthritis everywhere—canme off the trailer both legs of the trip bright and fit, never showed any signs of stiffness in the days after. I did stop regularly in a safe location, and let the drop down bars down so she could stretch her head neck out the window in case she was getting cramped up----with the bars down she can walk fwd fully several steps, stretch out the window—which I think helps the old bones too. But I only do this stopped at a safe rest area parked where a 18 wheeler or car is not going to come by and hit a horses head! Over the road, bars always up.

After getting princess horse used to the new trailer, I played around with different options. Now, I have the first divider removed to make a very big front box, and the rear tack folded up if I want a real big stal in back too. When I do this it’s more for the xtra air around that horse in hot weather, he’s actually gotten very civilized about being in the rear stall with rear tack closed. —so now either one of the rides in big stall in front or rear stall. They both like the room, but both over the road plant their rump against the back wall/corner of their stall.

My dividers are aluminum with airflow slats in them. They aren’t bad too take in and out once you get used to it. I can do it alone. Usually take a couple bales under it in case it drops off the hinge faster then I’m expecting. Also— mine has a spring on it to make the dividers swing open and stay open when you load/unload— I took the spring to hardware store—guy there helped me come up with a technique to grip/compress it to get it back on if/when I put a divider back in. We found 2 wrenches that fit on securely and I could squeeze the compress the spring ends. Works a charm—but I do it carefully and wear eye protectors…just in case the wrench flew back…I’ve known people to get bad face and eye injuries working on stuff …personal paranoia.

I was never a fan of slants. However, I went with a slant because I felt 2+1 was a longer trailer than I wanted to just skip around 90% of the time 1 princess pea horse. The 3 slant is a size that for me, used to GN I can snake in all sorts of tight spaces. I also like that w 3 slant so easy to have it be a open box or load 3 take a friend or pack the front with hay etc. If I was driving cross country or to FL—I wouldn’t want my old draft mare squished in the front—for really huge horse, IMHO double stall is huge, my draft acn turn right around in it loose no problemo, the diagonal with double stall islike 13ft at least. The rear stall fits “longer” because of how they have full corner behind their bum to stand/brace against–it’s like standard 10ft.

I would asay though—the 2 horses I do this with know each other and don’t kick or have hissy fits. It’s their barn RV as far as they are concerned. If I had strange horse on—I’d use a stud divider below because with the double stall in front—that horse could kick under and hit the horse behind it.

If you are worried about hauling—definitely practice practice practice. Back up, drive around, get used to handeling the thing. With a helper—also determine how sharply you can jacknife the rig before it contacts the back of your truck cab…a lot of people have busted out their rear windows/damaged cabs that way.

here are some pics of mine.
https://goo.gl/photos/V9UcNNxGYahkuzS27
I’m not sure they are helpful—but you can see how these 2 horses look 1 divider out in 7’6" tall by 7wide. You can see the 16h chestnut, 1200lbs, size 84" blanket—long body TB, in double stall has more than a usual box stall—he can turn right around easily/effortlessly. The big arthritic old mare can also turn herself right about in the double stall too. I definitely like 7’6" high—I had a 7’ trailer before this one and horses occasionally bumped their heads—not enough to get hurt, and they took it remarkably well when it did happen…doh! Ow! Never did it again but…who needs that right? I had one stallion that would fire up start hooting to the ladies and forget—boom, hit his head. He would make a total Homer Simpson DOH! Dammit! face every time LOL.