Great! Thanks
Out of those four, I only have the Diamond Gloss. It’s nice and soft (without being too soft). I think you would be safe with that one. It’s a really nice brush! I just haven’t use it much because my horse is still in her winter coat and I think it will be a lovely summer brush. She isn’t very sensitive so I am using a metal curry for shedding and following up with a rice root brush. But yes, I recommend the Diamond Gloss.
I just got a Cavaliere haven’t used it yet, but I can confirm it’s firmer than the Diamond Gloss. I still think it’s going to be a gentle brush though. Definitely softer than their synthetic rice root/Diamond Wurzel) brushes.
I have a Grundy and a Diva for my sensitive lease mare. She loves both of them and gives me a grumpy look when I use anything else on her. The (mini) Grundy flicks off the dust and sand really well, and the Diva does a nice polish.
My present lesson horse hates, Hates, HATES stiff brushes.
However he will make an exception for the Schimmel, IF I only use it on caked on dry mud or brushing out his mane and tail and he likes it. No caked mud, then the Schimmel is an instrument of torture to him.
This horse, who usually tells me to “watch it” when I groom his head with one of the softer brushes, will not only let me use the Schimmel on caked mud on his head, he will politely point out any of the caked mud I missed on his head, and he is not content until I get ALL the caked on mud off his super sensitive head with the Schimmel, including his very sensitive ears whether the mud is on the outside of his ear or on the inside of his ear.
The Schimmel now lives in my grooming bag because it is the best brush on caked on mud that I have ever used in the past 50 years. The lesson horses tend to live outside 24/7/365 and can end up with an amazing amount of dried up mud on them.
I got to ride yesterday.
MJ, the more sensitive than any chestnut TB mare QH gelding I ride TOLD ME yesterday, impatiently (I think I “heard” a “you dummy” in there), that on his muddy head that ONLY the Schimmel would do, as well as any other place with mud (which he pointed out to me.)
Considering that the first time I used the Schimmel on him he was so obvious about how he was painfully restraining himself from giving me a well deserved beating for daring to use the Schimmel on him. Then he consented me using it to comb his mane. Then came the dried mud patches.
Then yesterday he “cussed me out” until I went over his whole head, including his delicate ears, with the Schimmel, whether there was caked on mud or not. Nothing else would do, and every other brush (mostly the Kopfburste) was too irritating, too wimpy, and just too, too, too something for this sensitive soul.
At least if he comes in caked with dried mud I have a brush that can deal with it now!
Ugh I adore my Haas brushes. I currently have the Schimmel, medium flick, and Diva Gloss. I also always start out with my Hands On grooming curry gloves which I use to get most of the caked up mud on and bring all that skin dust to the surface.
The Schimmel is AMAZING at pulling up all that loosened dust and getting it all out of the skin. Like truly amazing. And also great at effortlessly pulling off any dried mud that I missed. I honestly find that I don’t really use the medium brush all that often nor the Diva Gloss, mostly because by the time I get done with the curry gloves and the Schimmel, Miss Mare is pretty sparkly clean.
Granted I take my time grooming but these tools make it so much fun and I have such a shiny horse in the end!
After getting my Eqclusive Shining Pack most of it is in my grooming bag. The one exception is that I substituted the Haas Country pig bristle brush for the Haas Coat Gloss body brush, no real reason except that the horses seem to enjoy it a little bit more.
So I now have the Haas Schimmel, Military, Parcour, Cavaliere, Lipizzaner, Country and Diva for the grooming brushes, as well as the Haas Fesselburste Fetlock brush, the Kopfburste brush for their heads, the Haas Expressburste brush to clean the brushes with, the Haas Koko Black mane and tail brush and the Haas Joker hoofpick. The Eqclusive grooming tools I have are the Eqclusive New Generation Curry and the Eqclusive Brush for Brushes tool for cleaning out the brushes.
All my old grooming tools are gone except for my StripHair grooming tool and my Tiger’s Tongue, those are just too useful to dump out and a regular hoof pick. The StripHair still seems to be the best for getting a lot of that shedded hair out of the horse’s coat before it can gunk up my Haas brushes.
Right now I feel fully equipped to deal with grooming the vast majority of horses, all the coat colors, all levels of skin sensitivity, and all degrees of filthiness. Since I no longer own a horse I did no bother to get the Haas brushes for washing horses, besides I think a lot of horses get way to many baths as it is.
I doubt I will buy any more Haas brushes for myself since it seems like I have all my bases covered. I will be getting the stables I ride at some of the Koko mane and tail brushes and maybe a Joker hoof pick for the stable where I ride on Sundays.
And now I can stop pouring over all those listings of grooming tools trying to find one that is truly unique for getting a super sensitive or a super filthy horse clean. I am happy, my riding teachers are happy (I got both of them the Eqclusive Shining Pack among other Haas brushes), and, most importantly, the horses are happy and CLEANER!
Thank you all for leading me to the Haas brushes!
i use one of these in each hand for faces and ears. They fit nicely in the palm of my hand.
My update: the Schimmel really works wonders in one swipe… on his winter coat. But now that my guy is shedding out, he is starting to object to the stiffness with kicks at his belly. Switching to a softer brush fixed that.
Thank you for telling me not to give up on the Schimmel on the super sensitive skinned lesson horse I ride.
7 months ago the Schimmel was totally, oh so totally unacceptable for his skin. Then it was OK for mud on his body, then it was OK for mud on his cheek bones, then for mud on his ears.
NOW? He absolutely insists of the coconut fiber Koko mane and tail comb on his head though the Schimmel will do. He particularly likes it between his lower jaw bones and I get all sorts of crud out.
And the Schimmel? Now he gets really p*ssed off if we do not use the Schimmel after the New Generation curry comb. He is an ITCHY horse, and shedding made him so much itchier! He no loves being groomed with the Schimmel, no dirty looks, no little threats, no scowling about our cruelty to dumb animals.
At first he hated the Schimmel. Now he loves it.
The Schimmel brings up so much dirt, and his coat gets shiny after one pass.
AND, before the Haas brushes only one person was allowed to groom him at a time, any more and he was dancing in the cross ties. A few weeks ago he stood peacefully, with a very calm expression, while THREE people were grooming him in different places on his body with various Haas brushes.
And I can get him cleaner with a lot less effort on my part. With my MS I get tired quickly, it is so nice to get his coat shiny without me getting too tired to have my riding lesson on the days when I have to do most of the grooming.
Sorry for bumping up this thread but I’m still very confused on these Haas brushes after staring at them for months. I’m trying to find a medium brush made of horsehair with bristles that are all the same length but can’t seem to keep all the Haas brushes straight.
For the medium brushes (Military, Parcour, Cavaliere, Diamond Classic, Pony, Amazone, Welsh, and Lippizaner), which ones currently don’t have the long hairs on the borders of the brush? I’ve been looking online at all the product photos and some websites say XYZ brush doesn’t have a border of longer bristles but then other websites will have photos/descriptions of the same brush without the borders. Ex: Riding Warehouse’s Haas Guide states that all the medium brushes (except Pony & the Amazon) have the longer border but then this website says the Parcour doesn’t?
Are there just different versions of each medium brush, some with long bristles along the border and some without? If so, how would I go about finding places that don’t have the long borders on the brush?
I got the Shining Pack of brushes from Eqclusive https://eqclusive.com which has brushes for all colors of horses–grey, chestnut, bay/black, and “colored” horses like pintos.
The brushes I got in the Eqclusive Shining Pack do not have the longer edges like the earlier Haas brushes I had bought from Riding Warehouse.
I LOVE my Shining Pack. I had been looking at all the different Haas brushes, wondering what could work best for me (I ride other people’s horses). Once I got the Shining Pack I realized I did not have to get any of their other dandy or body brushes. Plus the Shining Pack has the New Generation curry comb which is softer to the horse than the regular Haas curry comb.
I liked it so much I went ahead and got a Shining Pack for each lady whose horses I ride. They like them too.
I do have some additional brushes, their Koko mane and tail brush is coconut fiber like the Schimmel but smaller, good for the head. The Haas Fetlock brush is a favorite of my riding teacher, she always asks me to get mine out so she can clean the horse’s lower legs really well. I have found that I prefer the Haas Country pig bristle brush to the Haas horsehair body brushes, it seems to get more of the remaining dirt out and the horses really like it (and all the bristles are at the same length.)
My current lesson horse HATED being groomed when I first started riding him (very sensitive skinned chestnut QH gelding). Using the regular dandy type Haas brushes got him calmer about being groomed, calm enough so I could use the much harsher feeling Haas Schimmel brush on him, the one that he hated at first but now DEMANDS every time I groom him (it helps his itchiness and now he likes it.) Nowadays if I forget to use the Schimmel I get dirty looks from him until I use it on him.
I hope this helps. My riding teacher and I have gotten horses that DID NOT like being groomed to relax and enjoy it with the Shining Pack Haas Brushes from Eqclusive. Worth every penny I spent on it.
Of the “medium” brushes, I have both the Amazone and the Cavaliere. The Amazone does not have longer bristles around the edge while the Cavaliere does.
I also have a Schimmel (stiff) and a Grundy’s Finest (soft); neither of them have the longer edge bristles. I recommend them both as well!
Ahh interesting thank you! Does Eqclusive carry different versions of the Haas brushes than Riding Warehouse?
Also curious, which brushes are in the Shining Pack that you like best? I don’t really need a whole set as I have an odd assortment of brushes but am lacking in the medium brush department. I’m caught between the Parcour, Capriole, Welsh, and Amazone but I don’t really want to buy all 4 of a similar brush.
Ah good to know thanks! How does the Amazone compare to the Cavaliere in terms of softness and what you prefer them each for? I’m iffy about the longer edge bristles since I’ve always used a brush with even bristle length!
Coming in to say - I have a BUNCH of Haas brushes (10?) and the only one my fussy, hates to be touched or groomed, grey OTTB gelding loves (LOVES!) is the brenig madoc brush:
https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/haas-brenig-madoc-medium-brush-14141
He tolerates some of the other brushes… and hates some too. But he relaxes into and asks for more of the brenig madoc.
I think the Amazone is a little stiffer than the Cavaliere. I like the Cavaliere for sweeping some of the dust and loose hair off the horse. It doesn’t dig in and pull dirt out of the coat in the same way.
I have a gray, so Haas brushes have been a significant part of my coping strategy!
The Military has longer hairs on the edge, but it is a nice, dense medium brush. I also got the Grundy’s, and Mr. Red Head says NO THANK YOU to Grundy’s Finest, which is fairly soft but not as soft as the Diamond Gloss. It is not a dense brush either compared to the others. He thinks the Military and the Schimmel are fine. I recently bought a baby horse who is a brown Labrador in a horse suit, so he does fine with the Grundy’s.
My vote is for the Parcour, I find it’s a perfect medium horsehair brush with even bristle length. I also have the coconut fibre Schimmel (which is my heavy duty go-to brush to start with, I use it a lot) and the Cavaliere (which has the longer border, so it’s been relegated to my trailer for use at shows as I just don’t find it fits in with the rest of my brushes).
Hope that helps!
The Shining Pack includes (with my usage):
The New Generation Curry comb–I use this every ride.
The Schimmel–coconut/vegetable bristle very stiff brush. I always use this brush for caked on mud as nothing works better. This brush may require a gentle introduction for regular grooming, otherwise dried mud, manes and tails. Very good with super itchy horses that are do not have open sores. Right now I am using it every ride with a super sensitive skinned ITCHY chestnut Appendix QH gelding who gave me months of dirty looks ("watch it lady!) before he decided that it is his favorite brush of all time.
The Military, which is not super stiff. This brush is AMAZING at getting dust out of the coat. Specifically for chestnut horses in the Eqclusive universe, I just go ahead and use it on any super dusty horse. I use it every ride for the thicker winter coats, and if the horse comes in with a super dusty summer coat. It is the first brush used in the Chestnut pack.
The Cavaliere. This brush I use mostly for winter coats. The Eqclusive Packs include this brush in the chestnut and the bay/black horses packs. Their literature says that this brush “cleans properly the top coat and starts to create shine.” I do not seem to need this brush for chestnut summer coats unless the horse is really dirty. In the packs this is either the second or the third brush used to get the coat thoroughly clean.
The Lippizaner. Another brush I use mostly on winter coats. In the color packs this brush is used for bays and black horses, and also grey and colored horses like pintos or palominos. The literature says “Gentle but effective cleaning, removing scurf and dander. The Lippizaner brush deep cleans from the root of the coat, therefore it is necessary to use excessively.” It is listed as the second brush to use in the Bays & Blacks pack and the Grey and Colored pack.
The Parcour. This brush is listed only in the Bay and Black horses pack, where it is the first brush used. “The combination of black and grey horse hair bristles creates a superlative cleaning effect. Removes mud and dust.” I am waiting to ride a bay or black horse to use it.
The Coat Gloss. In all the packs this is the third or fourth brush used. “Light, soft, thickly woven horse hair (grey)…It fulfills all the needs for grooming and finish with a “pampering” effect. Very effective for sensitive horses and for the horse’s head.” I do not use this brush because I find that I, the horses and my riding teachers greatly prefer the Haas Country wood backed pig bristle brush.
The Diva, with the Lambswool center. I use this brush every ride if my riding teacher gives me enough time, mostly where the saddle and girth go to get that final layer of dust off the horse. The horses tend to like this brush. The lambswool center tend to lead to swooning from people who just love to stroke it.
The Eqclusive people carry the vast majority of Haas brushes, many which are not in their packs. I have found the Eqclusive people easy to work with, their prices are competitive, yes there is the extra postage but the brushes tend to be in stock unlike some other places where I have had to wait a good long while for a brush to get back into stock. Marta is the woman who developed the packs for the different colored horses, and she is pleasant to work with.
I donated my Haas Amazone brush to my lesson stable, along with the longer edged Cavaliere, Parcour and Military brushes, as well as the Grundy’s Finest, Pony and the Go for Gold brushes I had bought before I got the packs. My riding teacher is quite willing to put these brushes into the horses’ grooming buckets. She seems to like the Pony brush a good bit. These brushes have brought me a lot of good will from the stables and the horses who benefit from the brushes I give them (instead of the usual shrug off “I guess we can use it” I get when I gave other brushes.)
Right now, with a super sensitive skinned chestnut horse in summer coat, I use the New Generation curry comb (in all the packs), the Schimmel, the Country boar bristle brush, and the Diva as a finishing brush. He is a shiny horse right now.
I hope this helps.