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Tariffs impacting showing

Hunter/Jumper
#1

Per the chronicle article

https://www.chronofhorse.com/article/impending-tariffs-may-inflict-big-costs-and-headaches-at-us-border/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1JSTVmfaV18afnjnFWUa694N-hM-veBOoHEb2CT_jioqrav15ODuEfJtw_aem_KoijNx9zH4vR9cq2BZJtww

I’m on the go and was only able to skim. We travel from the US to Canada up to 10 weeks a year. Thankfully I haul my own horse and use an E29B but my husband is a commercial shipper and they’ve always used a Carnet.

It’s already a PITA to cross (ESPECIALLY for commercial haulers, so thanks to whoever wrote the article saying they’re not worried about them), and with so many unanswered questions and Thunderbird shows coming up soon, I’ll be curious to know what everyone’s experience is.

Trailers have been known to be held up at the border for hours. It’s inhumane that our horses should have to suffer, especially as the weather gets warmer.

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#2

I wonder if it will impact the number of PNW people going to Thunderbird and result in people not coming. What a mess.

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#3

Will this impact the Olympics or do they get a special pass?

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#5

Huh. That’s an interesting question.

If it does apply to them, that would be a whopping big tariff deposit they would need to leave at the border, I would think.

It’s not like they can claim the horse is only worth $1000, which I’ll bet more than a few other people will try to do.

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That was my thought!!

#7

I’m planning to go to May. We’ll see what happens for the other PNWers going for April…

Sounds like I may have to finally pay for a Carnet after all these years. Some are thinking that will help to circumvent the bond.

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#8

Our local shows are mostly in Canada, so I was curious about this article. Sounds like a real pain! Guess we will have to figure it out if they go into effect…

I never would’ve guessed it applied just for hauling over and back.

#9

Pretty sure most of the Olympic crowd are already accustomed to travelling on a carnet. I feel bad for the poor souls travelling to Angelstone from the East Coast. Those New York border peeps have been power-mad for a while. I lost a super funny photo of my gray-haired dad who came along for the lolz passed out in the aisle of a semi covered with hay and mutts while they sorted out why every horse we shipped was worth the same $2500.

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#10

Planning to show at Thunderbird in June from OR. Let me know if you run into any issues. It’ll be my first time attending so I’m hoping we can get in (and out), smoothly … eek!

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#11

Historically we’ve always heard things are changing (for various reasons) and have been able to get across when hauling our own (i.e owned by us). We’ve used an E29B for the last several years (at least 6/7 years).

Will definitely report back after April when my husband takes commercial loads and when we take my mare in May as a personal horse.

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#12

Awesome, thank you. And good luck!

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#13

It’s a great show! I hope you get to go. And thank you!

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#14

They’re hip to the fact that we underdeclare, too. I actually didn’t underdeclare when I imported my horse, and I was still stuck at the border for ages while they literally googled trying to find the ad

#16

Wow. Luckily a lot of horses don’t have ads, but a lot do. Thankfully some sites have ranges when listing horses. Also, like my horse, her passport name is not her breeding name so there’s even more nuance.

It’s all relative and SO subjective, and that’s the most frustrating part. Just let us show our glorified farm animals that are actually our pets and we pinky swear we won’t sell it in the two weeks that we are showing.

#17

Sorry I didn’t make it clear, I imported him ages ago. They weren’t googling at the border recently, my point was just that they are aware we underdelare the purchase price (even 10+ yrs ago)

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#18

Yes, about 20 years ago I brought a US bred and owned horse across into Canada, to live at the breeder/owner’s farm in Canada. She wasn’t being sold, and I couldn’t understand why I’d have to pay GST on an owned horse not changing hands. I had no way of showing her value as the only thing there was a price on was the stud fee, so I said she was $2,500.

The border wanted GST paid, and didn’t believe or accept that value. They held me there while I tried to contact the owner, who was in Egypt at the time. And threatened that the would keep the horse in their “holding yard” (pavement with portable fencing) until I paid. At that time I was a broke farm-sitter and I didn’t even have the funds to pay; the border didn’t take credit cards. Luckily I lived 45 minutes from the border so I had my roommate drive down with my chequebook.

Somehow we got hold of the owner, she said $3,500, I wrote a “bad” check, and I don’t remember how, she transferred funds to me to cover it. This was long enough ago that the cheque would need to be taken to a bank to be deposited, so there were a few days between.

I’ve known other stories of bad experiences crossing with horses and values being questioned, where people were given penalties/fines. Not worth it to get caught and potentially have border crossing issues forever.

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#19

I see a lot of people on this thread talking about paying tariffs going into Canada, but aren’t the tariffs only for importing from Canada to the US? Why would they effect people going to Canada from the US to show?

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#20

I believe Canada will probably impose reciprocal tariffs as needed to balance the scales.

The newly elected leader of Canada does not sound like he is messing around at this point.

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#21

Funny border crossing story.

Many years ago, we were taking a horse to the Royal Winter Fair horse show.

When we stopped at the border crossing on the way up, the border agent came out to look at the horse in the trailer to verify that the horse matched the paperwork.

And as we were standing there with the trailer door open, the border agent was joking around and said to the horse, “Are you going to win at the Royal?”

And sure enough, the horse nodded his head up and down as if he was saying yes. And then he went to the horse show and was champion there!

I always knew he was a smart horse, but that was really impressive. Lol.

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