TB eye candy: the NH stallions of Rathbarry Stud

[JER]

Rathbarry Stud in Ireland is a family-run operation that has stood some amazing sires of jumpers. Strong Gale, sire of Andrew Hoy’s Burghley winner Moon Fleet, stood there, as did Anshan, the sire of Will Faudree’s Andromaque. Andromaque is by Anshan and out of a Strong Gale mare, which is about as royally-bred as an eventer can get.

These days, Rathbarry (via its NH operation Glenview Stud) has Presenting, most famous for Gold Cup winning sons Denman and War of Attrition; Robin des Champs, a French-bred son of Garde Royale and himself a successful hurdler in France; and a new stallion for 2010, Dubai Destination, a Kingmambo son and Gr 1 winner on the flat. Pedigrees are definitely worth checking out for those who like to see what produces jumpers.

Enjoy.

[vineyridge]

Not one of theirs, and I’m not even sure he’s still alive, but I’d kill for a horse with Definite Article on top. Sireline Tourbillon and sire of Vinnie Roe.

[Robby_Johnson]

Wow!

I know you aren’t fond of Mr. P but the Robin des Champs is about as amazing in that pic as they come! I am drooling!

[JER]

[QUOTE=Robby Johnson;5151013]
I know you aren’t fond of Mr. P but the Robin des Champs is about as amazing in that pic as they come! I am drooling![/QUOTE]

Robby, Robin des Champs has no Mr. P.
[URL=“http://www.pedigreequery.com/robin+des+champs”]
Robin des Champs pedigree

He also has no Northern Dancer. And he is gorgeous. He’d make a nice match for my mares.

Another son of Garde Royal, Garde Champetre, has dominated NH cross-country races for the last few seasons. Garde Champetre sold for over a million as a young horse and found in niche in a form of racing in which there isn’t much money. I’m sure he would have made a first-rate eventer.

[vineyridge]

Isn’t Robin des Champs an eyeful? You notice that he has all three of the foundation sires on the first page too.

There are no stud fees listed. If affordable, someone ought to buy an Irish mare, breed her to him and then import her.

[JER]

In France, Robin des Champs stood for 3800 Euros.

In Ireland, his fee is listed as ‘private.’ IIRC, before Anshan died, his fee was 3000.

Robin des Champs has an older half-brother (same dam) named Robin des Pres who stands in Ireland for 2500. Here’s the only pic I could find. Another looker…

[Robby_Johnson]

[QUOTE=JER;5151206]
In France, Robin des Champs stood for 3800 Euros.

In Ireland, his fee is listed as ‘private.’ IIRC, before Anshan died, his fee was 3000.

Robin des Champs has an older half-brother (same dam) named Robin des Pres who stands in Ireland for 2500. Here’s the only pic I could find. Another looker…[/QUOTE]

My apologies! I was looking at Dubai Destination and my comments were directed at him. But for some reason I typed the other name - probably got “lost” in the navigation. I love all of them!

[JER]

Dubai Destination gets his Mr. P through Kingmambo. Kingmambo sired some absolutely glorious sporthorse types.

That said, I’m still not sold on Mr. P anything.

I do think, however, that DD is a good choice for NH breeding. There’s more about him (including his convincing Queen Anne win) at his Godolphin Hall of Fame page.

[SEPowell]

Is there a stallion in the US with the conformation of Robin des Champs?

[bornfreenowexpensive]

@JER;5151206

In France, Robin des Champs stood for 3800 Euros.

In Ireland, his fee is listed as ‘private.’ IIRC, before Anshan died, his fee was 3000.

Robin des Champs has an older half-brother (same dam) named Robin des Pres who stands in Ireland for 2500. Here’s the only pic I could find. Another looker…

Like them both…wish I could win the lottery!

They look a lot like Mill Reef…

[Drvmb1ggl3]

Presenting’s stud fee was in the €12-15k range. It may have dropped now that the arse has fallen out of the bloodstock market, for NH horses at least.
He, like many of the top NH stallions, routinely covers about 300 mares a year… and, no that’s in one hemisphere, these guys don’t shuttle. Busy boys. They do have a longer breeding season than flat stallions though, as there is less of an advantage to early season foals.

[Equilibrium]

Presenting was covering less as he got older. Not sure about this year. And while the arse fell out of the bloodstock market there wasn’t much of a reduction in stud fees.

Viney, Defenite Article is still very much alive and well. I believe he’s at Morristown Lattin Stud.

Believe it or not, you could go to the NH foal sale in a few weeks time and take your pic of foals for under 1,000 euros. There will be plenty. Mind you I heard the sale is only 3 days this year which is a switch from the normal 7 day sale.

Actually, I need to get those catalogs and see what is what.

Terri

[Robby_Johnson]

@JER;5151851

Dubai Destination gets his Mr. P through Kingmambo. Kingmambo sired some absolutely glorious sporthorse types.

Can you share any specifics? MP also sired Fappiano, who not only produced amazing sporthorses, but produced own sons who did as well.

[ponygirl]

Interesting to see Robin Des Champs has double Sicambre (Sacramento Song’s sire) up close.

[mugsgame]

I love Presenting. I do not think it will be too long with the numbers that he covered that we will see a few eventing. I have seen one go through Ascot sales a couple of months ago for £2500. She was a small mare but crossed with a good sportshorse sire would have been the way forwards.

The other racing sires who I love in the UK are Beneficial (High Top seems a very good sire of sporthorses) and Alflora.

[JER]

[QUOTE=Robby Johnson;5152554]
Can you share any specifics? MP also sired Fappiano, who not only produced amazing sporthorses, but produced own sons who did as well.[/QUOTE]

Kingmambos are compact with strong toplines. Not big, about 16hh.

Kingmambo.

His son Henrythenavigator is a good example of the type.

A friend has one. Really athletic, cost 230K as a yearling, nice mover, terrific jumper with a lot of go. The sort that’s best with an athletic rider though.

Kingmambo was the sire of the popular young hurdler Detroit City, who sadly died on course from a defective heart valve.

[Robby_Johnson]

Dylan Thomas

I would so have me a Dylan Thomas baby.

http://www.coolmore.com/stallions-view.php?list=ireland&id=60

[Equilibrium]

[QUOTE=Robby Johnson;5153408]
I would so have me a Dylan Thomas baby.

http://www.coolmore.com/stallions-view.php?list=ireland&id=60[/QUOTE]

He’s quite small actually, but not bad looking progeny. I would rather the Sadler’s Wells line than the Danehill line any day of the week.

Terri

[netg]

I really have a love/hate relationship with this thread.

Our horse facilities won’t be ready for a few months, and even then I won’t be in immediate “next horse” hunting mode… but still…

[Robby_Johnson]

Back In The Day …

I actually ran numbers/scenarios prior to breeding my mare based on traveling to IRE and buying a young horse in a sale/importing to U.S. It obviously was more expensive, and I would never “buy cheap” on a youngster as that’s irresponsible. I think I left it at “Probably need to go one year to assess, then return following year if it showed promise.” In the end I bred. But, I have to say, I could still envision resurrecting this route as an option.