TB pedigree gurus, curious about this filly's distaff side

Got a posting notification about this filly, and her distaff side is pretty much completely foreign to me. Not looking to adopt, am just curious to learn more about her pedigree. But, for anyone who may be interested, I’ll post a link to her page. Sadly she has a horrible neck, but a very kind eye.

webpage: http://www.goodhorse.org/2016/07/11/we-never-sleep/

pedigree (which is also linked on her page): http://www.pedigreequery.com/we+never+sleep

Checked Equineline and fixed it. The mare listed on PQ as the dam was an English model who would have been 27 when this horse was foaled…

Not a bad damline on this mare at all actually! Shame the conformation shot is so awkward.

Thanks, Scaramouch. Wow, that correction changes everything. (and just an FYI, I did not pick the wrong pedigree this time! can blame this one on TPR.) :wink:

And I guess that also completely negates my question, as her corrected distaff is much more familiar to me. But hey… she’s still available to anyone interested, as well as more horses on the website.

Makes me wonder why she was ever bred. Her dam was unraced, and her second dam was a failure (0-7, according to PQ) on the track. Second dam was bred by the Firestones from three generations of superlative mares. But it’s pretty clear that Global Glitter was a dead branch on the speed tree.

You’re right about the neck. But she’s still young, only three years and three months, and there is still time for the neck fairy to appear. She’s certainly got some slow maturing lines in her pedigree.

the neck wouldn’t bother me, 3 years is not a flattering time for most fillies.

that being said, it’s a real shame about the knee chip. someone who wanted a nice eventing partner probably could have made a very good horse out of her, i wonder if it is operable?

she’s got an interesting page; i absolutely love In Reality and seeing him linebred is even better; you have The Axe line bred as well, which doubles Mahmoud. Both IR and TA are good bids for sport. Further back you see a lot of Mumtaz Mahal (another eventing ancestor that pops up frequently in sport) blood.

Up close though, Forli, Forestry, In Reality and Pleasant Colony would make me curious to see the horse. Viney is right, there is a fair bit of slow maturation in her pedigree; mentally as well. She definitely has that SC eye.

She does have Relaunch’s full sister (Moon Glitter) tail female. I don’t think you could have a more proven line for ‘ammy-type’ sport TBs than Relaunch, personally.

Too bad about the chip; she may not have been talented in the racing scene but I would wonder if she’d make a good eventer.

I do like this pedigree … the sire is a very well bred son of Forestry and Breeder’s Cup winning millionaire Unbridled Elaine. He himself was a G3 stakes winner and that’s really all he has done. Nothing sire worthy yet.

Distaff is a producer of amazing stallions. Tapit, Rubiano, Glitterman… those are a tad bit distant and the more recent dams haven’t produced much.

She might do well being bred to a Tapit son - I’d aim at a Rasmussen Factor with superior mares like Foggy Note and Moon Glitter. If you’re into racing, of course!

actually, I’d do something totally crazy. I’d wait for MadefromLucky to retire and use him with her. He’s nearly a millionaire, from the same female family, and would provide additional inbreeding to Mr. P and Unbridled. That may seem like a lot of Mr. P in total, but I’d love to see that foal run!

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actually, I’d do something totally crazy. I’d wait for MadefromLucky to retire and use him with her. He’s nearly a millionaire, from the same female family, and would provide additional inbreeding to Mr. P and Unbridled. That may seem like a lot of Mr. P in total, but I’d love to see that foal run![/QUOTE]
If it were me, I’d point her in the direction of eventing breeding if she was a decent enough mover. She has enough good representation on both dam and sire side for me to think she might have or could possibly make a very athletic horse for sport. I’d want something with His Majesty or more In Reality up close; sons of Dynaformer come to mind – of course, not many available within the sport breeder’s budget.

and it should be pointed out that Global Glitter, the 2nd dam, had two daughters who produced stakes horses in Japan. Also, Global Glitter appears to have been sold a few times and ended up in British Columbia where she produced her 13 and 14th foals. That mare was a producer!

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If it were me, I’d point her in the direction of eventing breeding if she was a decent enough mover. She has enough good representation on both dam and sire side for me to think she might have or could possibly make a very athletic horse for sport. I’d want something with His Majesty or more In Reality up close; sons of Dynaformer come to mind – of course, not many available within the sport breeder’s budget.[/QUOTE]

We do know a decent Dynaformer son in Ohio!!

I agree with Beowolf…She is in Laurel…Nicanor (Dynaformer) is in Woodbine Md standing for $2,000…too bad it is not earlier in the season and she could take a detour home?

Uh, she’s from the immediate family of Tapit, for starters…

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We do know a decent Dynaformer son in Ohio!![/QUOTE]

And his people are great to deal with. I’m pissed at my mare for not getting in foal to him. :lol:

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Uh, she’s from the immediate family of Tapit, for starters…[/QUOTE] I realize that, but the branch off was from the 3rd dam. The first two did nothing. Global Glitter had a slew of foals. Only two won more than a maiden race.

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I realize that, but the branch off was from the 3rd dam. The first two did nothing. Global Glitter had a slew of foals. Only two won more than a maiden race.[/QUOTE]

I’m not disagreeing that Global Glitter way under produced, but that doesn’t change the fact that she was still half sister to stakes horses Glitterman and Ruby Slippers (even before Ruby Slippers set up a dynasty of her own with Rubiano and eventually Tapit, Summer Bird, etc.) and out of a stakes winning full sister to Relauch. That alone gives her daughters some merit, especially to folks who can’t afford to buy into the Ruby Slippers branch of the family. Which if you look at their sales histories, that’s exactly where those fillies went.

To paraphrase, you asked why the filly in question was ever bred given the lackluster racing performance of her 1st and 2nd dams. Because her 3rd dam was exceptionally good, hope springs eternal, and hindsight is 20/20.

I have to admit this is the type of filly who may only appeal to breed to own types. I do believe that she could be a decent regional producer when carefully mated. And of course, I still believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. Hope springs eternal!

I also love her mare line-- and I believe in the tooth fairy also-- plus some alleged dead "branches " are just being quiet and do come stormin back tnd her smokin hot relatives are not that far back.

Of course I had to go look and see who else is available! Drooling over Shock and Awesome!

http://www.goodhorse.org/2016/07/09/shock-and-awesome/