This is the new trendy terrible decision in dogs being made by inexperienced dog owners at the moment. All of a sudden I see CCs everywhere. They are NOT an easy dog and 99% of the people who suddenly have them are totally ill equipped. They’re already popping up in shelters. A fine dog for the right household. A DISASTER for most of the people who are suddenly buying them.
Only met one so far (they’re not exactly common), and even though the owner is a super lovely, responsible woman, I am definitely not a fan of the dog. Certain aspects of its behaviour make me very nervous.
Two killed a man jogging by on the road near Metamora, Mi. I believe it was about a year ago.
Lackadaisical owners had several Cane Corsos, not restrained. Other folks came forward about their encounters with the dogs AFTER the death but issues were not resolved with law enforcement and owners abut containing the dogs tIll it was too late. Not sure all previous incidents were reported by those the dogs menaced on the road or threatened at those people’s own homes nearby .
I would be very nervous about such a breed and vIsiting children. Those kids are NOT his family! Large, powerful dogs need MUCH training, socializing by a Alpha type owner. Seldom is the buyer of such dog breeds that kind of person. So dog is not obedient or under control, nor kept well contained. Always an accident waiting to happen.
A dog breed like this is bred to be defensive, certainly not a friendly-to-all neighborhood pet.
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I love Cane Corsos. But definitely not for first time owners. I’m going to assume he did not get the dog from a reputable breeder since he sounds uninformed about the breed. That would concern me a lot. They were probably not bred with temperament in mind and that could end up a disaster if he doesn’t train it and keep on top of the training. The ones I’ve been around were very sensitive dogs, and that in itself can cause issues.
Is the Boston also a male? If so two males can be a problem with same sex aggression. Or if the Boston is an unaltered female more issues.
Just an add on it wasn’t Cane Corsos that killed the lady in Ca. Those dogs were Pressa Canarios (sp.). Still in the mastiff family though.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for clarifying, it has been awhile since I read the article so I apologize for not being up to date.
OP is the Boston a female? If so, read on
This is kind of nauseating, but here goes… apparently one of the hot new designer dogs is Boston Terrier X Cane Corso. 
Is your BIL the type to try to make a quick buck breeding dogs?
You should be able to google both breeds and your area/state, and hopefully find the breeder/puppy mill that does both. BIL doesn’t sound the type to go to the trouble of shopping around. I bet he went in for one dog, and they sold him both by saying how much $$$ he can make breeding.
Or contact a reputable breeder close by, and explain the sitch to them, ask if they can point you to the breeder. Cane Corso is a niche breed, all the breeders in an area know each other.
That whole scenario made me nervous.
Tell me - how does it work with the MALE being the Cane Corso and the little mama being the Boston?
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That whole scenario made me nervous.
Tell me - how does it work with the MALE being the Cane Corso and the little mama being the Boston?[/QUOTE]
It can’t possibly be safe for a Boston to be bred to a Corso, but in the youtube the Boston is the mother. #makesmesick!!!
That’s horrifying.
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They are not “giant pit bulls”. The Cane Corso is a molosser - and Italian. They are more mastiff than terrier personality wise, despite “looking” like bully breeds. Presa Canario is an entirely different breed and IMHO a very, very different type of dog and is a terrier.[/QUOTE]
From what I am understanding from vacation’s post I think she was saying that people are passing off their oversized pits as cane corso’s in the US, not that cane’s are large pits.
[QUOTE=Foxtrot’s;8601977]That whole scenario made me nervous.
Tell me - how does it work with the MALE being the Cane Corso and the little mama being the Boston?[/QUOTE]
From what I understand, puppies grow to the size of the womb they are in. So even though the male is huge apparently the puppies will not overwhelm a small dog. But I don’t breed dogs so it’s only things I have heard.
That’s not the part I found horrifying.
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Two killed a man jogging by on the road near Metamora, Mi. I believe it was about a year ago. Lackadaisical owners had several Cane Corsos, not restrained. Other folks came forward about their encounters with the dogs AFTER the death but issues were not resolved with law enforcement and owners abut containing the dogs tIll it was too late. Not sure all previous incidents were reported by those the dogs menaced on the road or threatened at those people’s own homes nearby .[/QUOTE]
The owners were vile people. Sebastiano Quagliata and Valbona Lucaj, both under investigation by immigration for bribing INS officials but were still in the US while it dragged on in court. Their batshit free-range killers had been reported repeatedly for attacks on joggers, walkers, random lifeforms. Police handed off all reports to the county animal control, which never did anything about the situation. This is the big problem with “Hey, let’s have tough dog laws!” solution to violent dogs - first, you need AC agencies to do the work of dealing appropriately with dangerous dog behaviors. And when dogs big enough to kill, from breeds with very violent records, are permitted to run free and begin charging and attacking people, that shouldn’t get a “loose dog” citation and a flyer about dog ownership tucked under the front door. Which is apparently the sole response this AC agency had to the prior attacks.
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They are not “giant pit bulls”. The Cane Corso is a molosser - and Italian. They are more mastiff than terrier personality wise, despite “looking” like bully breeds. Presa Canario is an entirely different breed and IMHO a very, very different type of dog and is a terrier.[/QUOTE]
The only people who talk about “molossers” are pit bull owners. I’ve been hearing that molosser talk for YEARS and at first I thought there was some validity to it. Now, I think it’s the Gypsy Vanner of dogdom. Whatever validity there was in the original concept - the idea of mastiff type dogs - has basically become a wankfest, the makes-us-all-tingly speshul breeds of bully breeds.
Yes, when breeds look alike, that’s a real tip-off that there’s no real relationship. I don’t get why, whenever bulldog people want to explain why their breeds are violent, they resort to slandering the terrier. Terriers can be and often are nasty little SOBs who will f’ you up, but they don’t kill people. Even people they could reasonably manage, like infants and small children, don’t seem to fall victim to terrier deviltry too often - as in, they get bitten but rarely end up with 6 years of surgeries to reattach their scalp, rebuild their eye socket, or end up in a coffin. Meanwhile, in bulldog land, there are - well, some issues. The bulldog side of all these breeds is the issue, not the .0005% of terrier blood that’s maybe floating around in there.
And that’s said as someone who’s taken her share of physical abuse from terriers, which can indeed have some nasty aggression issues and some very sharp teeth.
Oh god that’s all the more horrifying. That video, those idiots letting their toddler between mom, dad, and pups???
And no, I wouldn’t put him above some ridiculous scheme to try to make money breeding dogs. Don’t know if the terrier is a female.
Almost the saddest thing about this is, it’s not like ex BIL is poor or even middle class, he makes mid six figures.
There does appear to be a reputable breeder in state, so I’ll give them a call first. There also appears to be a breeder that indeed sells both Boston terriers and cane corsos.
I shall sleuth and update!
Vacation, I have to disagree, my Boerboel looks nothing like a pit bull. She is obviously a mastiff breed. She has been very easy to socialize, and is much more biddable than my Doberman. Now, she’s a lot of dog, and left untrained and unsocialized would be a four legged wrecking ball. I wouldn’t like one bit to be around a dog like that mishandled.
But she’s no kind of pit bull.
I know one and he’s a lovely dog with wonderful owners. I actually know him as he’s one of the few dogs my dog likes to socialize with at the local off leash beach (which means she bosses him and he follows her adoringly) and so I started chatting with the owners. Terrifying looking dog but theirs is really a good old dog. They are gold star owners though, got him because they’ve always had mastiffs and were tired of the congenital issues in the popular breeds: did a lot of research, used a top breeder with well tempered bloodlines, lots of training and socialization, grew up with their older dog, experienced with mastiffs, no children. Basically ideal. I would be scared of a similar dog without all that as he’s really big and strong and could probably fit my thigh into his mouth.
I don’t breed dogs either, so I’m not an expert. But, common sense says the act of breeding could be dangerous for the Boston. There is a chance she might be injured internally isn’t there?
…they could always use AI — but the whole thing makes me wonder, esp. with the toddler mixed in with the two adults and a mother who may be protective of her pup and snap at the dad and then get snapped back, etc. Felt like there was a fuse burning …
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The only people who talk about “molossers” are pit bull owners. I’ve been hearing that molosser talk for YEARS and at first I thought there was some validity to it. Now, I think it’s the Gypsy Vanner of dogdom. Whatever validity there was in the original concept - the idea of mastiff type dogs - has basically become a wankfest, the makes-us-all-tingly speshul breeds of bully breeds.
Yes, when breeds look alike, that’s a real tip-off that there’s no real relationship. I don’t get why, whenever bulldog people want to explain why their breeds are violent, they resort to slandering the terrier. Terriers can be and often are nasty little SOBs who will f’ you up, but they don’t kill people. Even people they could reasonably manage, like infants and small children, don’t seem to fall victim to terrier deviltry too often - as in, they get bitten but rarely end up with 6 years of surgeries to reattach their scalp, rebuild their eye socket, or end up in a coffin. Meanwhile, in bulldog land, there are - well, some issues. The bulldog side of all these breeds is the issue, not the .0005% of terrier blood that’s maybe floating around in there.
And that’s said as someone who’s taken her share of physical abuse from terriers, which can indeed have some nasty aggression issues and some very sharp teeth.[/QUOTE]
look up molosser. it’s like saying that clydesales, belgians, are ‘drafts’. it’s a category of dog breeds that share a similar trait. i disagree that all the molosser breeds look alike - cane corsos don’t even look like presas, boerboels don’t look like other mastiffs, etc. they weren’t bred for the same purposes, they are not the same dogs.
pit bulls are terriers, and kill people. so… almost every type of dog has killed a person, and nearly every type of dog is capable of doing so.
i don’t really know where you are going with this. YOU are slandering a breed of dog (cane corsos) that you clearly don’t know much about. they are so abstractly different than presa canarios that it’s like comparing a stoat to a bear. presa canarios are, IMHO “giant pit bulls” that you describe and i would not ever want to be in the vicinity of one – and this is coming from someone who has owned and loved many different breeds of dogs, including terriers.
From what I read…they’re both types of mastiffs. I’m fairly experienced with some challenging breeds and I wouldn’t want to have either one of them with “visiting” children. It sounds like a recipe for disaster.
