In horses, the foal grows to the size of the uterus, but I’m imagining a big headed dog’s puppies trying to be born from that little thing…then there is caesarian, as in bulldogs…where is all this going…boggles the mind.
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look up molosser. it’s like saying that clydesales, belgians, are ‘drafts’. it’s a category of dog breeds that share a similar trait. i disagree that all the molosser breeds look alike - cane corsos don’t even look like presas, boerboels don’t look like other mastiffs, etc. they weren’t bred for the same purposes, they are not the same dogs.
pit bulls are terriers, and kill people. so… almost every type of dog has killed a person, and nearly every type of dog is capable of doing so.
i don’t really know where you are going with this. YOU are slandering a breed of dog (cane corsos) that you clearly don’t know much about. they are so abstractly different than presa canarios that it’s like comparing a stoat to a bear. presa canarios are, IMHO “giant pit bulls” that you describe and i would not ever want to be in the vicinity of one – and this is coming from someone who has owned and loved many different breeds of dogs, including terriers.[/QUOTE]
Actually, it’s a lot like saying Belgium Warmbloods are nothing like Trakehners. Yeah, ok.
A Cane Corso is plenty close enough to a giant pit bull for the purposes of the thread as to illustrate the point being made by the post in question.
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…they could always use AI — but the whole thing makes me wonder, esp. with the toddler mixed in with the two adults and a mother who may be protective of her pup and snap at the dad and then get snapped back, etc. Felt like there was a fuse burning …[/QUOTE]
Off topic…but do they do AI with dogs? Does anyone know?
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Off topic…but do they do AI with dogs? Does anyone know?[/QUOTE]
Yes they do AI with dogs. I’m not a dog breeder but do know that breeders ship semen around the world just like horses.
P.
Friend has South African Boerbels and he ships his dog’s semen all over the world! The owner of the Bull Terrier my son was planning to use would only
allow use of AI for her dog.
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Actually, it’s a lot like saying Belgium Warmbloods are nothing like Trakehners. Yeah, ok.
A Cane Corso is plenty close enough to a giant pit bull for the purposes of the thread as to illustrate the point being made by the post in question.[/QUOTE]
Well, they’re both horses…but no they’re not the same.
A Cane corso is not a pit bull, it’s a mastiff type. But, since everyone knows that all pit bulls are terrifying beasts (sigh), lets call them one too.
Again, close enough for the purpose of the post in question. No need to split hairs.
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Actually, it’s a lot like saying Belgium Warmbloods are nothing like Trakehners. Yeah, ok.
A Cane Corso is plenty close enough to a giant pit bull for the purposes of the thread as to illustrate the point being made by the post in question.[/QUOTE]
Not to be argumentative but have you seen or bred or dealt with BWP and Trakehners? They are completely different - Trakehners are a breed, BWP is just a registry. Beyond that, completely different than the discussion at hand because BWPs and TKs have been outcrossed and do sometimes share ancestors.
A completely irrelevant argument because PBs and Cane Corsos share very little, if any, recent ancestry. Cane Corsos are a very old breed, with very little outcrossing. They are not, in any way “close enough” to PBs… PBs weren’t used in their breeding programs, and CCs weren’t used PB/AMST breeding programs. If a dog is black, does that mean it is a lab? Because some of you see a wide skull and just jump on the PB wagon…
If you haven’t owned or cared for a CC, maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t be comparing them to Pit bulls. The only similarity I know between them is that they hog couches.
I don’t think that CCs are first time dogs, nor do I condone any of what is happening in OP’s situation.
OP any update?
No update yet, I’ve been traveling and haven’t gotten any info out of my sister–have to wait until I see either of the nieces to get any more solid info. It’s not super urgent, he doesn’t have unsupervised visitation and never at his home. And while it would be unfortunate if he or someone else were injured, in this case I really only care about my nieces’ safety.
In my sister’s defense, I’m sure she is worried, but she’s not an animal person and I think she doesn’t want to make any waves while trying to get him caught up on child support. (Not the way I’d handle it, but she really doesn’t do confrontation.)
Please do not compare Cane Corsos to pitbulls. Terriers vs. mastiffs are very different. Nothing wrong with either dog, but they are really not comparable.
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Please do not compare Cane Corsos to pitbulls. Terriers vs. mastiffs are very different. Nothing wrong with either dog, but they are really not comparable.[/QUOTE]
Pit BULLS are bulldogs. And apart from the great question of where exactly did the starving rural Italians of the early 20th century stash these ancient giant Wardogges until they were ‘rediscovered’ in the 1960s, the thread previously has discussed the issue of where OP’s craptastic BIL obtained said CC, and the likelihood he got it from some dirtbag BB who is essentially breeding bandogs. ie, a giant pit/mastiff mix which he sells as a “Cane Corso” to get around breed bans.
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Pit BULLS are bulldogs. And apart from the great question of where exactly did the starving rural Italians of the early 20th century stash these ancient giant Wardogges until they were ‘rediscovered’ in the 1960s, the thread previously has discussed the issue of where OP’s craptastic BIL obtained said CC, and the likelihood he got it from some dirtbag BB who is essentially breeding bandogs. ie, a giant pit/mastiff mix which he sells as a “Cane Corso” to get around breed bans.[/QUOTE]
The dog in question for this thread may very well be a poorly bred mix, but there is no need to perpetuate myths and negative stigmas about the Cane Corso. If the dog truly is a poorly bred mix, comparing it to a Cane Corso won’t do anyone any favors anyway.
Best of luck to the OP in this situation.
It is PAINFULLY obvious that not one single person in this forum has every ACTUALLY owned a CC.
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It is PAINFULLY obvious that not one single person in this forum has every ACTUALLY owned a CC.[/QUOTE]
There is this thing called a breed which is entirely about creating uniformly predictable physical and behavioral characteristics. People who do not own a member of that breed can therefore make relatively thoughtful, valid comments on said breed. Which is why we have those lovely books that direct newbie dog owners not to buy, for instance, a Malinois, and why we regard Goldens as fairly easy pets.
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It is PAINFULLY obvious that not one single person in this forum has every ACTUALLY owned a CC.[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, we know. Your dog bred to attack people is really the bestest sweetest thing ever and all the simpletons just don’t understaaaaaand.
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Yes, yes, we know. Your dog bred to attack people is really the bestest sweetest thing ever and all the simpletons just don’t understaaaaaand.[/QUOTE]
Cane Corsos were not bred to attack people. They may be descendants of dogs used in warfare (as almost all dog breeds are) but anyone can tell you that was over 1500 years ago and those dogs’ traits are obsolete in the modern breed, which has not been bred to kill people. In the right hands they are very good dogs.
Why does a newbie come onto this forum with a snark? We don’t need any more.
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Cane Corsos were not bred to attack people. They may be descendants of dogs used in warfare (as almost all dog breeds are) but anyone can tell you that was over 1500 years ago and those dogs’ traits are obsolete in the modern breed, which has not been bred to kill people. In the right hands they are very good dogs.[/QUOTE]
Most of the ones that the backyard breeders are breeding ARE being selected to be aggressive, it’s part of the macho package. If the dog didn’t at least LOOK like it would rip your face off, these guys wouldn’t want one. Don’t see very many gangsters with Labradoodles…
I’m sure that properly bred ones are fine dogs, but that really wasn’t the point.
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I’m fostering a large dog of unknown parentage, who, apparently, has never lived in a house before. He’s recently neutered, nice to the cats and our own dogs, but lifts his leg on everything. He does go out to poop, thank heavens.
Is there any short cut to housebreaking such a dog? I’ve only had experience with puppies.[/QUOTE]
Adult dogs can actually be easier to house break than puppies, because they can hold it longer.
Supervision (tether to you)and taking out regularly is the key, as is cleaning prior accidents with an enzyme cleaner, like urine gone, kids n pets, or nature’s miracle. Follow directions on bottle. You don’t blot them completely dry.
The other thing I would do is get a urine sample to make sure there is no uti. They can be common in stressed dogs (coming from a shelter, or going into a new home, as stress lowers the immune system). A uti would make him have to pee frequently in small amounts.
