Tell me about donkeys/mules as companions and livestock guardians

We’re hunting for acreage in SW British Columbia (basically an hour straight north of the WA/ID border). Plan is to bring my mare home and get her a buddy. We’re also looking at maybe getting chickens.

There’s a fair amount of predatory wildlife up there and I’d like to make sure I’m deterring them as much as possible. Would a donkey or mule possibly make sense (in combination with appropriate fencing/housing/noisy dog etc) in a paddock with chickens? Would a steady eddy donkey be a good companion for a Boarding Barn Diva Mare who may be horrified by the mountain life? She’s seen mules and donkeys before and didn’t seem concerned about them. She’ll likely be more concerned about the lack of staff to cater to her every whim. :rolleyes:

None of the mules I’ve ever owned were particularly effective at predator control. They have all been more of the “live and let live” mentality and seem just as likely to run away from threats as a horse will. My current mule and my dog used to play together and chase each other around the pasture, so the dog chased the mule as much as the mule chased the dog.

My current mule would likely pester chickens sharing his paddock for the pure entertainment value of it.

I don’t have any experience with donkeys.

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Donkey seems effective on dogs, coyotes, maybe wolves, depending on donkey size. Friends have a couple from a BLM sale (previously wild donkeys captured in a round-up) that have been excellent guard donkeys with the flock of sheep. Might be 12-13h, not trained to do anything else. Both are Jennies I think. They have paid their way in dead dogs, no dead sheep. Suburbia has crept out and engulfed the farm, so loose dogs are a big concern, predator, when running sheep you plan to sell. I do not think they would tackle mountain lions and might have problems with a pack of numerous wolves surrounding them.

They get trimmed once or twice a year, vaccinated, all done under sedation, while giving Vet and Farrier the evil eye!! They live on grazed sandy gravel to keep hooves from overgrowing, plus they run a lot, checking things out. Also keeps them trim, not fat. What you would call “ambitious” donkeys, an oxymoron! They watch a lot of sheep, over 400 ewes and market lambs the last I knew.

Donkey needs some extra weather protection. Fuzzy coats do not shed rain or snow like horse hair does, making them get wet to the skin. Wet and cold will lead to problems.

Our young molly mule chased everything, just could not catch the sheep or dog to actually damage them. But she probably would have. Sheep had a small opening to run out of field because she was not after them ALL the time and we only had one field then. She got sold on, afraid she would go after the kid who was getting old enough to visit the barn.

Geldings or full jacks, are well known to kill sheep and goats they are supposed to be guarding. Some Jennies may do that too. Not all donkeys are good for livestock guardian animals.

I gather donkeys are individuals.

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/off-course/10469722-anyone-want-a-donkey-this-ad-is-hysterical

Did you know about this place, up near Chase/Salmon Arm in BC? They could probably give you lots of good information about keeping donkeys in colder climates. I don’t know if they adopt or are just a sanctuary. Donkeys are desert animals, but they do seem to adapt to colder places.

https://turtlevalleydonkeyrefuge.com/

I have two donkeys and live in a very rural area with predators. Both my donkeys are excellent guardians and companions. They will insert themselves between the horses and any unfamiliar animal or person who enters a pasture. They poop and pee on top of where the horses poop and pee, and when a horse finishes rolling, they will go over and roll in the same place, I’m guessing to disguise scent. They will bray upon spotting a strange vehicle coming up the driveway, an early warning system.

One of mine has a very sparse coat, so I blanket him on the cold winter days. He also hates water so has a rain sheet that he loves. They are easy keepers and take their jobs seriously. I am very fortunate to have them!
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Not all donkeys are suitable for guardians.

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They also don’t all do well with access to other animals. You may find your chickens have been stomped into the dirt by the donkey(s).

LGD’s might be a better option or find donkeys who are guarding successfully right now the animals you want them to protect.

Plus some horses, even if they’ve “seen” donkeys before, don’t like them and will chase them. Some horses don’t care. Some (like my idiot) LOVE donkeys. LOVE. LOVE AFFAIR. GIVE HIM ALL THE DONKEYS. So he can’t go out with the donkeys anymore because he will smother them with love. Maybe a full size one day, but not the minis. So my minis are separated.

Honestly, donkeys and horses are not that similar. Donkeys really prefer other donkeys. I have one who played with my wb when he was a baby and is accepting of horses because he lived with horses for years, and one donkey who was never around horses and only donkeys. So now, in a mixed environment, the donkeys have access to two stalls and a horse who ignores the donkeys has access to only one. The donkey who is 50/50 on horses might go in with the horse or might be in with the other donkey, and it’s not uncommon for me to check the camera and see the donkeys-only fella in a stall by himself or standing outside the stall with the horse and the donkey.

https://youtu.be/BtnE1cpX4JI

A cute video if you need a moment of Zen watching donkeys play.

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I have two donkeys who live with the horses. Not many predators in my current area, although the donkeys chase anything that comes into the field- large birds, cats, dogs, deer, etc. They’ve never done any harm to anything, to my knowledge. Not sure how truly effective they are in terms of protection, but they do tend to bray if they feel something is amiss.

All of my horses love the donkeys and consider them part of the herd, although it took many years for my one mare to warm up (despite living with donkeys on/off since birth). I originally got my first donkey as a companion for two flighty horses that moved home and she calmed them down considerably.

They get treated more or less like my horses in terms of maintenance: same vaccinations, same trimming schedule, same deworming protocols. They don’t eat much: hay, a handful of something to carry supplemental vit/mins. They tend to be more sensible than the horses and silly injuries have been rare (but not nonexistent). They don’t “do” weather; rain, wind, or anything extreme, you’ll find them in their shelter. I blanket and sheet them as needed. In the summer, fly boots have become a must or else the flies eat their legs alive. I’ve also needed grazing muzzles in grass season.

Training-wise, they are quite different from horses. If you think of horses like dogs, donkeys are more like cats. Not that they aren’t trainable, but their default temperament is to please themselves, not an alpha. You have to make it worth their while. They also don’t appreciate repetition.

I adore my donkeys! They make me smile every day, even the old, curmudgeonly fellow. I can’t see myself ever being without donkeys.

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The donkeys in the video appear to be playing together in a cooperative way that I have never seen with horses. Very sweet!

My horse does a better job of keeping off predators than a donkey would 🙃 any horse that’s smaller than him he try’s to chase… same with all dogs, cattle etc.

I know some donkeys that make great guardians and some don’t.

We live in Montana and we had one of our horses get attacked by a mountain lion… I don’t think a donkey would of helped that situation… maybe coyotes, or random dogs yes.