Tennessee Walkers in the hunt field?????

I hilltopped my husband’s TWH last Fall a few times. The hunt I rode with is pretty laid back, and no one seemed to think anything of it. I probably got more comments on his coloring (B&W paint) than on his gaiting.

We didn’t have any trouble staying with the hilltop field, although I do agree with the earlier comment about pace - you do have to work a bit when the field is trotting extensively, because the running walk is generally faster than a trot. Not a big deal though.

And I did notice that I was much less tired at the end than I would have been on my horse, because I wasn’t posting :slight_smile:

I love the TWH’s attitude - he’s very mellow, but still forward and responsive.

Good luck!

My last input in this topic, since most of it doesn’t have anything to do with OP’s question.

Goodhors: I’m glad I misunderstood you when you spoke of “big hooves” :wink:

TWHs gaits: It is utterly ridiculous to assume that TWHs do not have the trot or pace as one of their gaits. The vast majority of the TWH foundation stock were racing champions. Some were the trotters, others were the pacers in harness. Sire F-1 was bred to be a trotter, but turned out to be a pacer. F-38, son of F-1, was a trotter (the trot was one of his 7 gaits).

In the last 2 decades, when evaluating young stock, the best natural pacers get singled out: those are the ones who will end up on pads - and if they do well they get awarded with a lifetime of stall-bound life on those pads. Since the gaits are mostly determined by conformation, it’s not hard to breed for the pacers.

To accommodate owners/riders who have horses that are not very inclined to canter, most classes are divided in 2: one for those who do canter, and one for those who don’t. However, the big lick class includes the canter always. If a TWH couldn’t canter, they certainly wouldn’t be famous for their rocking chair canter…

Suitability as an endurance horse: I’d like to go back to foundation sire F-38, whose job was to deliver mail - 38 miles each day. In the evenings he would get rigged up for races. It was not unusual to find him at county fairs racing during the day, and winning the gaited classes the same evening.

For a more recent example, Gypsy Lane Bigshot won the 2008 Santa Fe Trail Endurance Ride, winning 2 individual race days, and 3 “Best of Condition” awards.

A well-conditioned TWH, with his running walk well established, can easily travel at a speed of 8-12 mph for hours without breaking into a sweat.

As for the remark by Easysteppin that as a breeder I am apparently changing the breed’s standard: I’m happy to say that I am one of the fortunates who are still breeding true to the old lines - not only that, but also very close to the old lines. In fact, I am continuing a breeding program started by one of the most influential breeders of the TWH who was part of establishing the breed.

OP: In the TWH you will find a very capable and willing partner. But, if you plan on jumping, there’s one conformation issue you need to pay close attention to: A lot of gaited horses of any breed have a very mild version of sickle hocks. This is not detrimental for their gaiting capabilities and causes no issues as such. However, lots of jumping will eventually cause joint problems.

Found the pics of hunting I took last year, including the walker mare I previously mentioned:

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/BevHeff/Battle%20Mountain/?action=view&current=62.jpg

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/BevHeff/Battle%20Mountain/?action=view&current=67.jpg

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd89/BevHeff/Battle%20Mountain/?action=view&current=66.jpg

And as regards gaited horses handling rough terrain…yes we did go up into them thar hills that are evident in the background!

Great photos, Beverly. Nice mare - and that kid sure looked happy. I love to see young people out hunting. :slight_smile:

My first pony was some sort of TWH cross (or something - he trotted, but did the running walk when nervous). He was a lovely, safe jumper with a fabulous personality, even as a green pony. By the time we sold him, I had him going around like a windup toy in the ring & out in the open. I never got a chance to hunt him, but my mother insisted he’d make a wonderful hunt horse.

He’s ~20 now & it’s been many years since we sold him; imagine my surprise when I noticed he & a little girl won the hilltoppers division of the North American Junior Field Hunting Championships last year. I hadn’t seen pictures of him in nearly a decade & was reminded when looking at the proofs from the show that I’d cheerfully take 100 just like him. He’s certainly not as pretty as many of the lovely ponies out there, but his temperament and brains more than made up for any flaws in the size of head and conformation departments. Guess my mum was proven right in the end. :slight_smile:

We go out this afternoon to take a second look. I imagine they’ll be in our pasture before the weekend is over. Just have to check vet records, etc.

Uh, oh, now DH will be flipping through the hawrse catalogues looking for “stuff”. :lol:

He got a beautiful trail saddle through Schneiders at a real steal. Surely it will fit one of our 4.

I appreciate all the input. What next, Haffies??? :smiley: I loff ponies. Now WHERE did I put that winning lottery ticket?

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We go out this afternoon to take a second look. I imagine they’ll be in our pasture before the weekend is over. Just have to check vet records, etc.

Uh, oh, now DH will be flipping through the hawrse catalogues looking for “stuff”. :lol:

He got a beautiful trail saddle through Schneiders at a real steal. Surely it will fit one of our 4.

I appreciate all the input. What next, Haffies??? :smiley: I loff ponies. Now WHERE did I put that winning lottery ticket?[/QUOTE]

I do believe that ticket is at the same location as mine :smiley:

Naaah, luvmywalkers,
You must have the POWERBALL and I must have the MEGAMILLIONS…:lol:
I’m sure we’ll find them just in time to claim all the $$$$$$.
Sure hope Congress doesn’t decide to put us in the 90% tax bracket. :eek:

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Naaah, luvmywalkers,
You must have the POWERBALL and I must have the MEGAMILLIONS…:lol:
I’m sure we’ll find them just in time to claim all the $$$$$$.
Sure hope Congress doesn’t decide to put us in the 90% tax bracket. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Well, it would fit the “change” mantra :wink:

We bought the pinto TWH hony and the black larger gelding. :smiley:
The owner invited us to go on trail rides with them in Mt. Rogers Nat’l Forest. He will deliver them in the next few days.
Can’t wait!

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We bought the pinto TWH hony and the black larger gelding. :smiley:
The owner invited us to go on trail rides with them in Mt. Rogers Nat’l Forest. He will deliver them in the next few days.
Can’t wait![/QUOTE]

Congrats! I know you’re gonna have lots of fun :yes:

Thanks, luvmywalkers-
The bigger of the two did canter in the field, which was good to see. Looked like a nice rolling canter. The pinto was too busy with the hay to perform. :winkgrin:
Carol

TWHs update-they’re heeeeerrrre

They’re here, they’re settled in, our two mares were interested but not nutso. Horses are across the driveway from each other in separate fields. PerchX is much more interested in eating. :smiley:
Interesting to note that hony trotted, cantered, and did a flying change. :):):slight_smile:

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?!?! :lol:

I know, I know, and I’m going to get slammed at work tomorrow when I don’t have pics.
DH went down just now to check on everyone-they are all bedded down across from each other. Um, guess they’ll be getting along!:winkgrin:

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My Big Lick bred horse (Coins Hard Cash/The Pusher) happily trots at liberty. And Paces at liberty. Never ever has he offered to trot under saddle.

hi K.

just wanted to pop in from another place on to mention that while a walking horse can trot one does not really look for it in breeding horses EXCEPT as an exteme reaction to the overly pacy animals…horses which trot CAN go into a runningwalk better than a pacer which can only go at best inot a rack…

but the best circumstance is to buy only the breeding horses that do a true runningwalk…but there is such greay discussion as to what it is and so few people have ever seen one that this is a hard find on a good day…and if they CAN do a runningwalk rest assured some dumbbutt will mess it up micormananging the damned thing…so you lose either way…:no:

can Walkers and their cousins hilltop? sure, after all it’s what the things were meant to do…long steady hours at about 7mph in a single speed…not cantering, not jumping, not sliding stops…

just dropped on cruise and checking on the hired help…unfazed by ditches or mud (god knows there’s all kinda mud in the Walking horse Homeland and not just this week;)) or traffic or heat or rain…just good old fellers doing what they do…with the occasional bit of buggy work…

best

If I ever get to hunt it will be on my little grade TWH gelding–so good with other horses, very energetic, very safe, willing and able to jump things out on the trail and much better at it than I am. He is a “trotty” walker and has to be ridden a couple of hours to get enough edge off him to get him to settle down and really do the runwalk.

He is barefoot with lovely ugly dinnerplate big tough feet. He ignores gravel, eats up rough ground, and can turn on a dime and hand you change. Powersteering. Once we were gallopng up a steep rutted sandy powerline and he saw a stick or something in the trail and changed leads to avoid hitting it with his hoof.

Either somebody put a dressage handle on him or he has taught himself to passage–I certainly didnt. He’ll pull this if he’s particularly pleased with himself. I’m just along for the ride. He’s just been such a treasure. He deserves a better rider. He’d love to carry the mail or be a circuit rider’s horse.

I expect you’ll have a lot of fun with yours.

My little Bl/Wh TWH pony is the one I’d hunt. She trots, the other bigger guy paces. The former owners trail rode with both and took very good care of them. We have lots of mud and muck here so I haven’t had too much luck doing anything else but grooming and spoiling all 4 horses :smiley: .
Pony is quite the diva. She is the one reminding us that it is time for dinner. As in, loudly reminding us it is time for dinner! However, at the moment she turns up her nose at Peeps.

I love having a herd. Even DH does. He even loves the Perchx who caught him in the side with a hoof or two when she was feeling frisky a month ago.

It definitely depends on the hunt and the horse. My husband had a 15.1ish TWH that we were going to try out the hunt on - very sensible horse, bombproof sort, but we weren’t sure how he would do. We did some nice prep work getting him and my TB in shape and decided to try the hunter paces as our first test. We did 2 with him, and ended up selling him. Reason being, he absolutely could not keep up with my mare to save his life. She was TROTTING, she has a huge strided trot and he had to canter for 8 miles just to keep stride. He was completely wiped out by the end and we knew there was no way he could stay with the group in the field, not to mention he didn’t have another gear in him, so his gallop would have been left in the dust by the other horses.

I’ve seen some walkers with a HUGE gaited stride, and that may be a totally different story. This guy couldn’t do it though- he tried, and he wanted too, but he just wasn’t bred to do it.

At this point, I intend to hilltop, so hopefully she’ll work out. If not, I’ll just try my other two mares once they have received enough training.
Of course, I need to get in shape, too. :slight_smile: