With that wonderful news im logging off for a bit to exhale and revel. Thank you CFFFarm !!!
[QUOTE=CFFarm;6344990]
Another light in the darkness. I just heard from one of the twhbea board members I emailed who was in transit from the semi-annual meeting and was encouraged to keep up the efforts to eradicate this division because they (the member) was in complete agreement.[/QUOTE]
If I sense any serious effort on the part of TWHBEA to eliminate this division, I will renew my membership and hope others do as well.
This breed does not need the Big Lick. It may be very profitable for a few, but in the big picture, it has not been good for this wonderful breed.
[QUOTE=Rbow;6345002]
If I sense any serious effort on the part of TWHBEA to eliminate this division, I will renew my membership and hope others do as well.
This breed does not need the Big Lick. It may be very profitable for a few, but in the big picture, it has not been good for this wonderful breed.[/QUOTE]
BINGO!!!
I wonder how many TWHBEA board members are in agreement at this time. I think i would wait until BL was banned until joining/rejoining TWHBEA. Nothing wrong with sending them a msg saying i will join/rejoin when you abolish the performance classes, but you will not get a nickle from me until you do.
Thanks for posting
[QUOTE=hurleycane;6344994]
TWHBEA is growing some big ones with this statement:
"The flat shod segment of the walking breed has grown tremendously due to the easy training of the breed, and the natural inherited gaits. Many people are able to maintain their horse without the aid of a professional trainer."
Boot the boys of WHTA![/QUOTE]
YES!!!:D:D:D:D
Hopefully
[QUOTE=CFFarm;6344990]
Another light in the darkness. I just heard from one of the twhbea board members I emailed who was in transit from the semi-annual meeting and was encouraged to keep up the efforts to eradicate this division because they (the member) was in complete agreement.[/QUOTE]
I so hope this member isn’t the only one, and this is not another one of their lies. I have a deep mistrust of TWHBEA.
YES!!!
[QUOTE=WalkInTheWoods;6344986]
Yes ! It is happening. Oregon and their Congressman Schrader rock.[/QUOTE]
YES they do!!!
I’ll suggest the following amendments to the HPA:
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Those who choose to shoe their TWH’s with stacks must also wear high healed platform shoes themselves. Platform shoes for trainers/riders/drivers/owners will be supplied by horse show management and/or the USDA will feature randomly placed small rocks and tacks along the foot bed.
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Anything applied topically to a horse’s lower limb, including bandaging materials, must also be applied to the lower limbs of the individual(s) responsible for the horse.
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Riders/trainers/drivers working horses in chains must wear an equally sized set of chains around their own ankles. Removal of previously applied topical preparations is not allowed.
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Horse Show Management and official USDA personnel reserve the right to carry and implement electric prods. These commonly used training devices will be applied to any trainer/rider/driver/owner found seated or recumbent while wearing USDA-issued platform shoes.
:winkgrin:
I think we should start a petition to the likes of the Olympic Committee to excuse the good ole USofA from participation in equestrian events as a result of the USA’s tolerance of the stacks and chains on this breed.
[QUOTE=JackieBlue;6345141]
I’ll suggest the following amendments to the HPA:
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Those who choose to shoe their TWH’s with stacks must also wear high healed platform shoes themselves. Platform shoes for trainers/riders/drivers/owners will be supplied by horse show management and/or the USDA will feature randomly placed small rocks and tacks along the foot bed.
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Anything applied topically to a horse’s lower limb, including bandaging materials, must also be applied to the lower limbs of the individual(s) responsible for the horse.
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Riders/trainers/drivers working horses in chains must wear an equally sized set of chains around their own ankles. Removal of previously applied topical preparations is not allowed.
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Horse Show Management and official USDA personnel reserve the right to carry and implement electric prods. These commonly used training devices will be applied to any trainer/rider/driver/owner found seated or recumbent while wearing USDA-issued platform shoes.
:winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
Sick but sadly very representative of the plight of the TWH.
To clarify- I’m not suggesting that the unity committee is the answer- I really don’t know exactly who is who- what I was saying is that the fact there even IS something called a unity committee suggests that there is a big rift that they are trying to manage. The fact that TWHBEA just bowed out seems to show that the goals of the other members of the unity committee were not something that the TWHBEA was interested in being a part of.
That is quite extreme, the hard working equestrian athletes that have been working for years and years and even dacades for this chance to compete don’t deserve to be ostracized.
You are quite extreme and are off your flipping rocker if you really think this.
[QUOTE=hurleycane;6345143]
I think we should start a petition to the likes of the Olympic Committee to excuse the good ole USofA from participation in equestrian events as a result of the USA’s tolerance of the stacks and chains on this breed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amwrider;6345230]That is quite extreme, the hard working equestrian athletes that have been working for years and years and even dacades for this chance to compete don’t deserve to be ostracized.
You are quite extreme and are off your flipping rocker if you really think this.[/QUOTE]
Yes, extreme indeed. Plenty of nations competing in Olympic equestrian events have their own niche of equine abuse problems. If the Olympic Committee started banning equestrian teams based on microcosms of abuse within their respective nations then there would be nobody competing.
I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing the Olympic Committee take an official stance on it though. Would be yet another way to keep the attention focused on Big Lick in mainstream media and on an international level.
[QUOTE=Amwrider;6345230]
That is quite extreme, the hard working equestrian athletes that have been working for years and years and even dacades for this chance to compete don’t deserve to be ostracized.
You are quite extreme and are off your flipping rocker if you really think this.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. That is hardly fair considering TWH’s have nothing to do with the Olympic world.
yeah, don’t want to be rude Hurley but…
I’ll just say in my opinion, that is WAY out of line and not helpful.
The problem is a TWHBEA and related organizations problem. Let’s keep focused on these. The Olympics and its governing body and equestrian rules have NOTHING at all to do with TWHs.
The pressure needs to be kept up on the THWHBEA, WHOA, SHOW, and, of course, my 'favorite" the WHTA (Walking Horse Trainer’s Assocaition.)
And yes it is trye that the natureally-bred TWH wearing flat shod regular shoes DOES NOT need to be trained by a professional to do its naturally bred gaits-- provided it is a well-bred TWH WITH natural gaits bred in.
The best training to “lock in” the natural running walk is lots of hours of riding by someone who knows how the gait looks and feels. There will always be room for good honest professional trainers even once the stacks, chains and hoofbands are gone.
Well said
[QUOTE=bayou_bengal;6345558]
The problem is a TWHBEA and related organizations problem. Let’s keep focused on these. The Olympics and its governing body and equestrian rules have NOTHING at all to do with TWHs.
The pressure needs to be kept up on the THWHBEA, WHOA, SHOW, and, of course, my 'favorite" the WHTA (Walking Horse Trainer’s Assocaition.)
And yes it is trye that the natureally-bred TWH wearing flat shod regular shoes DOES NOT need to be trained by a professional to do its naturally bred gaits-- provided it is a well-bred TWH WITH natural gaits bred in.
The best training to “lock in” the natural running walk is lots of hours of riding by someone who knows how the gait looks and feels. There will always be room for good honest professional trainers even once the stacks, chains and hoofbands are gone.[/QUOTE]
Well said!
[QUOTE=Angela Freda;6344943]
I think the difference now is the availability of popular/social media which helps the word spread to people who would never have heard of this disgusting practice.
Example, I am the only ‘horsey’ person in my family, so when I post these things on my Facebook page, many people who had no idea get informed.
Shining a light on these little pockets of decades old nastiness these days… well it’s a far brighter, illuminating light than it would have been 10 or 20 years ago.
If you look at how the Susan G Kommen dropping Planned Parenthood thing took off like a firestorm… that’s the idea.[/QUOTE]
You’re absolutely right (as part of the Komen and the knitted/crocheted uteri to lawmakers protests I should have realized this. d’oh!)
[QUOTE=hurleycane;6345143]
I think we should start a petition to the likes of the Olympic Committee to excuse the good ole USofA from participation in equestrian events as a result of the USA’s tolerance of the stacks and chains on this breed.[/QUOTE]
And here it is. Again.
One of my first posts–and another posters continual posts–
commented that its all well and good till they come after yours.I didn’t comment when my breed of choice–American Saddlebred–got slagged because there were plenty of others who corrected wrong information.
Now it’s my disciplines of choice.
That the responses to stay focused on the walking horse association and abuses is encouraging.
But that this idea occurs to one person means it can occur to others. And that makes me very concerned.
