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sure like it staying out front,so folks can read it for themselves[/QUOTE]
Yep, Roy is the"cat’s meow!!!"
E-mail forwarded to me from FOSH. Hope this really means something.
to FOSH_BOD, FOSHFriends
I am EXTREMELY happy to report that maybe our breeders association is finally getting the message. While the latest issue of Voice is much smaller, there is not one picture of a padded horse in the magazine. First time I remember that! Let’s see what comes around next month.
Nancythe Voice is an arm of TWHBEA,its just part of the smoke screen game,
they did it before just not the every pg.cut back on the BL did a trail thing if i remember right.
i would not hold my breath.
sorry its jmo
Not being a member, i dont get the VOICE. But i have seen some discussion that they do a yearly versatility issue. Dont know if that is this issue or if they are putting the BL behind the curtains.
I doubt if it really means anything.
Dear TWHBEA Executive Committee: As I understand it, you, the Executive Committee—the elected leadership of TWHBEA—voted to use SHOW, a NON-COMPLIANT HIO for inspections at TWHBEA’s futurity followed the 3-day TWHBEA World Versatility Show that will include padded horses. I am absolutely flabbergasted. I cannot comprehend why anyone on the TWHBEA Executive Committee would have voted for such a decision in today’s climate. SHOW is NON-COMPLIANT because it did not adopt the new USDA minimum, mandatory penalties for HPA violations for trainers, exhibitors, owners and all responsible parties. The final regulations went into effect on Monday, July 9. Notice of the final regulations was issued on June 7. SHOW and four other HIOs did not adopt the USDA minimum, mandatory penalties. That leaves 7 compliant HIOs from which to choose. You, the elected leadership of TWHBEA, had plenty of time to avert this disaster. At the very minimum, you should have informed SHOW that if it did not adopt the penalties as of July 9, TWHBEA would switch to another HIO. One the one hand you speak out of one side of your mouth and support the sound horse. Marty Irby recently told the TENNESSEAN (Mistreated Tennessee Walking Horses Get a Second Chance), “We only stand for the sound horse. We’re against soring of horses in every way and will do what we can to eliminate the practice.”On the other hand, you align your actions out of the other side of your mouth with an organization that is NON-COMPLIANT. Given this, how then is TWHBEA doing what it can to eliminate the practice of soring??? Your decision to use the NON-COMPLIANT SHOW organization as the HIO for this very prestigious TWHBEA event speaks volumes to the public. I cannot believe you have put TWHBEA in this position. What were all of you thinking?? Are you on drugs?? All I can say is “Get ready—prepare yourself for the backlash from this very idiotic decision!!” You had an opportunity to hire a compliant HIO. Well……your actions speak way louder than your words. You cannot scream loud enough to cover up the blatant intent of your actions. We get the picture!!!This is an embarrassment of the highest order. Those of you who voted for this cacophonic nightmare which will have dire consequences for TWHBEA should either remove yourselves from office or be removed. This type of two-faced, insincere, deceitful leadership, blinded by the ills of a sore horse culture, is certain to extinguish TWHBEA. Wake up, people!! Cris Van Horn
Importance: High Dear TWHBEA Executive Committee: As I understand it, you, the Executive Committee—the elected leadership of TWHBEA—voted to use SHOW, a NON-COMPLIANT HIO for inspections at TWHBEA’s futurity followed the 3-day TWHBEA World Versatility Show that will include padded horses. I am absolutely flabbergasted. I cannot comprehend why anyone on the TWHBEA Executive Committee would have voted for such a decision in today’s climate. SHOW is NON-COMPLIANT because it did not adopt the new USDA minimum, mandatory penalties for HPA violations for trainers, exhibitors, owners and all responsible parties. The final regulations went into effect on Monday, July 9. Notice of the final regulations was issued on June 7. SHOW and four other HIOs did not adopt the USDA minimum, mandatory penalties. That leaves 7 compliant HIOs from which to choose. You, the elected leadership of TWHBEA, had plenty of time to avert this disaster. At the very minimum, you should have informed SHOW that if it did not adopt the penalties as of July 9, TWHBEA would switch to another HIO. One the one hand you speak out of one side of your mouth and support the sound horse. Marty Irby recently told the TENNESSEAN (Mistreated Tennessee Walking Horses Get a Second Chance), “We only stand for the sound horse. We’re against soring of horses in every way and will do what we can to eliminate the practice.”On the other hand, you align your actions out of the other side of your mouth with an organization that is NON-COMPLIANT. Given this, how then is TWHBEA doing what it can to eliminate the practice of soring??? Your decision to use the NON-COMPLIANT SHOW organization as the HIO for this very prestigious TWHBEA event speaks volumes to the public. I cannot believe you have put TWHBEA in this position. What were all of you thinking?? Are you on drugs?? All I can say is “Get ready—prepare yourself for the backlash from this very idiotic decision!!” You had an opportunity to hire a compliant HIO. Well……your actions speak way louder than your words. You cannot scream loud enough to cover up the blatant intent of your actions. We get the picture!!!This is an embarrassment of the highest order. Those of you who voted for this cacophonic nightmare which will have dire consequences for TWHBEA should either remove yourselves from office or be removed. This type of two-faced, insincere, deceitful leadership, blinded by the ills of a sore horse culture, is certain to extinguish TWHBEA. Wake up, people!! (Copy of e-mail I got today, written by sound horse advocate.)
I do not know if it has anything to do with anything else but I did notice Aug 7 as a deadline on the court thing and Aug 7 is the final day to register for The Celebration. Registration fees are non-refundable. Again, don’t know if that means anything or not.
nashfad
it matters this date of AUG 7 if the court thing you speak of is the Texas one.
McGartland may have a horse that he wants to win the WGC,to raise its STud fees in Miss/Tx,this horse could be in his wife’s name or a friend.it my not pass inspection but if the HIO is THEIR HIO than that horse will pass.
its my understanding that Mrs McGartland is part of the TWSHO formed a few wk passed.Six of the Seven higharchy has HPA Violations
if the case in TX run right up to the MIDNIGHT HOUR of the 7 th than McGartland and others in the MIRE of court.which is of their own making mind you. this may back fire on them,One can only hope i guess.
untill that case is closed,the SHOW INC, should not be used as an HIO.for any show.
everything they do should be FROZEN,STOPPED ENDED. jmo folks
Dear TWHBEA Executive Committee, Yes, that is my question, what could you possibly have been thinking to use a noncompliant HIO for the TWHBEA Futurity? When the HIO discussion was first addressed for the Futurity, why was SHOW even a possibility in light of its refusal to adopt USDA minimum, mandatory penalties for Horse Protection Act violations by exhibitors, trainers, owners and responsible parties? Seven HIOs have adopted the USDA penalties, which were put in place to protect the horse. So, if TWHBEA is putting the welfare of the horse first as it publicly states, why was noncompliant SHOW even considered? Your decision to use noncompliant SHOW makes it obvious that TWHBEA is all about continuing the tradition of sored horses in the ring—there is no concern for the horse at all. For those in favor of SHOW, do you even have an ounce of concern for the welfare of horses? Don’t you think that 40+ years of bloody and painful abuse is sufficient for this beautiful horse that you claim to love, cherish and protect? Don’t you get it? The public gets it which is why TWHBEA is the laughingstock of TN and at the bottom of the barrel in the entire equine industry. After the close scrutiny in the press for the past few months, TWHBEA should have been running as fast as it could from all noncompliant HIOs and from any possible negative press. Did that cross anyone’s mind? Do you have any empathy for owners who put sound horses in the ring? So, tell me this, what about those owners who train soundly? Because of noncompliant HIOs’ failure to adopt the penalties, sound owners must compete with owners who have sored horses and did not receive rightful penalties while exhibiting under noncompliant HIOs. Of course, if those penalties would have been imposed upon those owners as the law requires, it may have kept them out of the Futurity ring, right? How fair is that? To add insult to injury, you are using a noncompliant HIO, SHOW, which has helped create this inequity for sound owners. Did you even THINK about that possibility? As leaders, you are supposed to think ahead and set direction. I guess that fact has escaped you. TWHBEA is under a microscope. Actions speak louder than words, and all your sound bites to the press now mean nothing because of this noncompliant HIO choice. After reading articles of the TWH industry visits with PR firms and the American Horse Council, the message to the industry was “Do the right thing.” Did you miss that advice? How can using a noncompliant HIO that refuses to penalize owners for HPA violations be the right thing to do? Why do sound owners with sound horses have to compete against owners who will not be penalized for their sored horses at the Futurity? More importantly, if sored horses are shown at the Futurity, why will there be no repercussions for all responsible parties? This is what you get by using noncompliant SHOW. For anyone in favor of using noncompliant SHOW, you need to resign and get out of the way so that this organization and the breed can survive. Find another organization to destroy. You have made it clear that the only thing that matters are moneyed owners—not ethics, not doing the right thing, not sound owners and NOT the Tennessee Walking Horse. So, to my original question, what were you possibly thinking in using a noncompliant HIO for your Futurity? Copy of another letter to TWHBEA.
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Dear TWHBEA Executive Committee, Yes, that is my question, what could you possibly have been thinking to use a noncompliant HIO for the TWHBEA Futurity? … HIO for your Futurity? [/QUOTE]
I am sure we can all imagine the responses to these letters will not be much worth the post here. But I think you and Roy are definitely related. You have a knack for the obvious. And that is a good thing - specially when TWHBEA seeks only to throw up side mouth back slapping smoke screens of double talk.
Lose the stacks and chains TWHBEA.
Hand over the reins.
http://www.t-g.com/story/1871335.html
[INDENT]Horse trial canceled; judge to hear both sides of issue
Tuesday, July 17, 2012
T-G STAFF REPORT
A trial over the constitutionality of a U.S. Department of Agriculture rule change affecting the Tennessee walking horse industry was canceled before it could take place Monday, with both sides to present their evidence over the issue instead.
Last month, the Shelbyville-based SHOW Horse Industry Organization (HIO) filed a lawsuit, asking for a restraining order over new rules which instruct the walking horse industry to oversee enforcement of anti-abuse penalties.
A federal district judge in Texas denied the motion for a temporary restraining order last week and had set a trial in the matter for Monday, but now both sides have agreed that a hearing and trial “is unnecessary in this case.”
Instead, a resolution will be reached based on cross-motions for judgment on the evidentiary record, but the two sides disagree what evidence the judge can consider.
To resolve case
U.S. District Judge Terry R. Means ordered the plaintiffs, SHOW Inc., Contender Farms, and Mike McGartland, to file their evidence on Monday, with the defendant in the case, the USDA, to submit “all documents and things that they believe should be considered” today.
Either party may file a motion to exclude all or part of another party’s submission by Aug. 7, with the submitting party having 21 days to respond to the motion.
Once Means has ruled on all outstanding motions concerning the scope of the record in this case, both sides will submit a proposed briefing schedule for resolving the merits of SHOW’s claims.
Background
The USDA’s new rule requires HIOs that license Designated Qualified Persons (DQPs) as inspectors to assess minimum penalties for violations of the Horse Protection Act.
SHOW stated in its lawsuit that private organizations do not possess subpoena power or personnel to judge and prosecute cases of horse abuse, and would withdraw from inspections rather than be exposed to possible lawsuits.
However, government attorneys filed a document last week stating that the HIO/DQP enforcement system is constitutional and the USDA’s rule change does not exceed statutory authority nor violate participants’ procedural due process rights. The USDA said in June that the new rule would ensure consistent inspections and enforcement at all shows.
Contender Farms and McGartland claimed they would be subject to suspensions under the new rule. But the government memo said harm would only occur if they violated the law by soring their horses.[/INDENT]
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I am sure we can all imagine the responses to these letters will not be much worth the post here. But I think you and Roy are definitely related. You have a knack for the obvious. And that is a good thing - specially when TWHBEA seeks only to throw up side mouth back slapping smoke screens of double talk.
Lose the stacks and chains TWHBEA.
Hand over the reins.[/QUOTE]
Well thanks Hurley, but I didn’t write those letters, so I can’t take credit for them. Copies were sent to me, and I felt they would be of interest, so that’s why I posted them here. I would be honored to be related to Roy, but not, just like minds. I have been called a loud mouth, and on this subject the shoe fits.
am i the only one that saw what is the worry hereMcGartland is worried about bein suspended if he did not SORE his horses why would he have to worry about that.:eek:
Gee i wonder if its time U.S. Dist. Judge Terry R. Means sees what SHOW INC and Contender Farms McGARTLADS’ FARM.have to worry about.maybe the list of HPA Violations would interest the judge.
if the USDA would try and show the judge these violation they(SHOW INC Contender Farm) would object.
how could they object if the judge already KNEW.(outside source)
some how this judge needs to know that these FOLKS are DIRTY.
the Judge KNOWS
Great song ! Great visuals and what a message.
I could be mistaken but I think Celebration entries close at 7 pm. Again, that could have changed.
TWHBEA, SHOW, etc are juggling lots of plates right now. Hope they all crash to the ground. And i too wonder how the case against the USDA will affect perfomance horse entries.
Lots of folks are trying to sell their boxes for the Celebration. It may look like a no-man’s land there.
