What happened? Is there an article about it somewhere if you’d rather not say?
Same.
Hate it. Won’t go near it.
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If there were witnesses to whatever it was that happened, one of them could mention it to a trusted friend who is not under FEI control and that person could make it public.
The FEI isn’t allowed witness intimidation of non-members.
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The FEI seems to do a lot more for horse welfare than does the USEF. How often is it that after the FEI applies sanctions for bad behaviour… oh yes… ok then… the USEF pootles along behind and only then applies sanctions? Andrew McConnon comes to mind. Andrew Kocher and his electric spurs outed in a FRENCH equestrian magazine, sanctioned by the FEI and then actions taken by the American authorities.
The FEI rules are sometimes different from national rules and riders frequently do not read the rule book.
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This is what I thought of:
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And below is the link to Lauren’s original FB post (with video) about this SJ round-- this was at the 2022 Maryland 5*.
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Thanks for the info.
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Thanks.
It seems to me like the Vaguebook post was referring to something other than technical issues with XC countdown (even though it was briefly mentioned) or the incident in the past where she couldn’t hear the bell. If that’s all it was, there would be no reason to be vague … a post saying “XYZ happened with the cross country start times and it was disappointing and frustrating, so I’m hoping there will be ways to keep this from happening in the future” would be well within the (excessively restrictive) social media rules. I don’t know what happened, but I really don’t think it’s about logistical issues at the start box.
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OK so because I’m nosy I was trying to see what I could find on the social media of riders who were around her XC start times if it was something that happened in the XC warmup… One thing I did find was one rider posted that their horse ‘pulled a shoe and half their foot with it’ during the XC warmup, resulting in a ‘less than perfect XC run’.
I sure wouldn’t want to run my horse after they took a chunk of foot off with their shoe, especially at the upper levels. I wonder if it’s welfare vs start box issue that maybe this has something to do with it? It’s just speculation though.
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To get others to speak out who have less to lose. Who aren’t under sanctions from the FEI if they do speak up.
If a witness who isn’t an FEI rider, or perhaps not a rider at all, will come forward and say “this is what I saw/heard” in a post or even to a sport journalist, that could spark the exposure that needs to happen.
If LN were to speak up and accept some sanctions, I wonder how much impact it would actually have on her future in the sport. Obviously she can’t afford to do something that would be seriously career-damaging.
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It would seem that she may be indicating an ongoing and entrenched system of officiating that doesn’t include adequate knowledge and options for official decision-making.
Is that a possible takeaway intended by LN?
In her photo, I can’t see what the arrow is pointing to. Anyone know what it is, and its significance? Is it a frangible device? The side pole? Something else? Maybe the issue wasn’t at this jump, but it is being used for illustration?
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She could say that explicitly then, instead of the long winded vague post.
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The arrow is a UI element in Instagram to swipe left to the next “frame” of the post. It’s not in reference to the photo itself. Its a “next” button.
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She can’t, that’s the whole point. Her post directly references the rules against airing grievances on social media and she says she’s framing it carefully to stay in bounds. She’s not being vague for her own amusement.
From the FEI:
“‘For example, they should exercise good judgement and think about the potential consequences of their posts and interactions on social media platforms,’ the FEI stated in its reason for the proposal. ‘They should not make derogatory, offensive, or inflammatory comments about other athletes, chefs d’equipe, coaches, teams, FEI officials, organisers, the FEI or any individuals associated with equestrian sport.’”
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Oh, I see it now – I was looking at the long red arrow in the re-post of the photo in post #31 (about) by trubandloki.
I see now that the red arrow wasn’t part of LN’s Insta post. It was added onto a screenshot (probably a screenshot) of the original photo.
OK, nothing to see here it would seem. 
All the vague non detail details are unnecessary.
“I completed this weekend at [name of event] and due to FEI rules I cannot comment on what occurred but I encourage any eyewitnesses who are not prohibited from sharing publicly what they witnessed.”
If that’s what she wants, that’s what she needs to say.
Instead it’s a whole bunch of vague suggestions of impropriety that nobody can intelligently discuss nor do anything about because nobody can read her mind and know what she’s referring to. But it sure does invite speculation and gossip with all the vague details.
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It’s quite possible and there are plenty of professionals who manage quite well. I believe TerraNova’s FEI schedule had dressage on Friday, SJ on Saturday and XC on Sunday. Hunter and Jumper pro riders are always showing a lot of horses as well.
Interesting. Who was that?
Pulling shoes XC is exceedingly common. Losing hoof with the shoe is also common enough.
These things usually are addressed in the final jog if not withdrawn before. If it isn’t affecting the horse, they will pass no problem. If it is affecting the horse, well, we know what happens.
Last year at KY it seemed like every other horse lost a shoe on course. That felt like more than normal to me. The majority of those horses were fine.
I doubt a rider (whoever it was) posting about a lost shoe has anything to do with LN’s criticisms.
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