The Butt-less Rider: Online Support Group and Journal for the Smoking-Impaired

Lurkers, posters, those who are contemplating kicking the habit, those who need reinforcement for the wisdom of their decision to quit, park your butt (of the posterior variety) and join in the non-smoking merriment.

Status: Day two of Zyban, spent the innaugural Zyban-day in bed felled by terrible cramps and felt otherwise delightfully buzzed for the first 8 hours. Sensed no decrease in nicotine craving - perhaps I’m getting a tad impatient in the expectation of a miracle ‘cure’. Which leads me to wonder, does the diminished craving arrive as an epiphany or does it seep in more slowly - not unlike the E Coli bacteria in Walkerton’s wells.

The Pity Count: Stalled at one. Demanded that Hans pity me and he’s eagerly complying. He is being rather relentless, though, and I may have to fire him - “oh baby, how are you?”; “we’ll now grow old together but you’ll always look younger than I do.”

Sumo Toddler’s proving unreliable in the pity department and seems more concerned with his Sonic game than the welfare of his mother’s lungs. Self-proclaimed Geek Boy and Mini-me don’t understand what the big deal is. Perhaps I should take away their Nintendo and Sega and see how well they fare through the withdrawal.

Routine Schmoutine: In a bid to avoid the smoking triggers, I have started to arbitrarily impose new rules on myself in an effort to break free from habitual and routine smoking. I now wait at least ten minutes before I have the first cigarette of the morning, I will only smoke when I physically desire one, I have started to call Hans, Olaf.

Enemy Territory: Bars, restaurants, soccer games, the barn, my brother’s house. I smoke more in a bar and will linger over many cigarettes after a good meal. Mini-me’s soccer tournaments stress me out and in reaction I will smoke. I am, yes, one of those horrible people who has smoked while astride, our trainers also smoke which will usually compel me to light up. Ditto my evil brother. I will avoid all enemy territory until my second smoke-free week.

Reaching out to your inner bitch: I have six days remaining before I must permanently butt out and have taken to repeating a daily mantra, which goes something like this: “I don’t want to die”. Given my children’s indifference, though, I have amended it to: “I don’t want to die so that I may continue to torment my children well into my '90’s.” I need to be as relentless bitchy about kicking the habit as I have been with the cable repair guy.

Non-smoking incentive: I must, I must, I must, I must increase my butt!

I do hope the Zyban kicks in for you ASAP. I know you enjoy the butts as much as I do. Well, I’m down to only 12 cartons of butts left (remember I buy them at the indian resevation by the case) before I decide to do something. Gotta remember to call my DR to see how the lung x-ray turned out and if he was pleased or displeased with the results of the pulmonary function testing.

msj

Hey I found this site with some great pointers
http://www.hoptechno.com/book43.htm
I am still going to try on the 24th.
Wish me luck I’ll need it

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As others have mentioned, one has very vivid dreams while ingesting Zyban. I hope it’s the Zyban.

Ciggies smoked thus far: 2

Number of times I wake in the night: 6

Level of gratitude that there were no Martin Amis books at hand: Uber-high

General Disposition: Not terribly short tempered but feel a general sense of ‘oddness’, can’t describe it more accurately than that. Remaining ciggies seem more habitual than a physical urge.

I haven’t been double-dosing (as the literature suggests on the third day of Zyban Bliss) and remain on a singular pill a day – which I hope will be effective enough to curb any cravings once I officially quit…tomorrow.

Unexpected Surprise: I believe I’ve lost weight since I started ingesting Zyban. Don’t have a scale in the house but my clothes seem to be looser than they are ordinarily. Perhaps my body’s prepping itself for an exodus of barbecue potato chips, from the Humpty Dumpty bag to my greedy little non-smoking mouth.

and I am smoke-free for a whopping seven weeks now. (But, who’s counting?)

Heidi - congrats on your quest…keep on going. Actually, from what I hear about Zyban, I think you need to take it for a month or so until the baseline is established in your system. Then, you can start the quitting process (huh?) in earnest.

I quit on July 4th - Independence Day…get it??? I bought The Gum and The Patch and decided it was all just too much work and it was going to prolong my nicotine addiction anyway…so I just stopped cold turkey.

The first day was really and truly ghastly. Linda Blair, Trainspotting, and crack babies come to mind. I levitated and cursed for a while. Day Two was half that bad, Day Three half of Day Two, etc.

Now I don’t have the physical craving anymore, but the mental part still needs work. The thought of feeling like I did on Day One keeps me from lighting up.

My stamina for riding is increasing and I am starting to feel “better” - whatever that means. Don’t mind me, I’m still in my grieving process.

Good luck to us all!

I probably should have gone back after 6 months for a refresher. After I started back up again, I tried hypnosis several more times with several different people and no luck.

msj

Heidster, while I was being hypnotized for fear of riding Willem after my accident, while under I said “And I’ll never smoke again.”

And didn’t.

No craving, no desire, nothing. So several friends did and they had the same result.

Heidi you are a stitch!! I love this thread. If it helps, you are free to focus on reviling me in one of your mantras - I’m one of those obnoxious someones who never started butt-sucking and so have never had to endure butt-kicking.

Persevere my dear; there are plenty of substitute vices out there to choose from!!

Everyone has different methods to kick the habit, my trainer swears every new year that he is quitting, and he does. By about the end of February, we are all out getting his cig’s for him and beggin him to light up. He is a miserable ba**ard to be around. I told him it was either light up or lose all your students. He is really really baaaaad.

I used to smoke 2 to 3 packs a day, after I had my son, I no longer smoked in the house sooo, that cut my habit drastically. A pack will last me a week or longer, unless I’m at a bar, then of course I smoke much more. Or right before a class in a horse show (really good idea, huh?, when the judges has you troting for 15 min straight )

Heidi - Good luck with your kicking the habit. Maybe someday, I will join you as I only smoke 2 or 3 smokes a day as it is. But until I get rid of significant problems in my life, I really really need those 2 or 3 smokes per day.

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Day four of Zyban has actually diminished the pleasure that smoking typically inspires in me. In fact, it’s diminished my enjoyment of many of my favourite hobbies, including sleep. I sleep restlessly and have started to wake at least once in the night. Quelle bummer!

Made terrible blunder last night by reaching for the book closest to the bed - Martin Amis’ Money. Amis should not be read sober; nor should his books be within a five mile radius of anyone engaged in a battle against nicotine. Ditto for Phillip Glass’ music.

Ciggie count for the day: 2
Days Hans has waited eagerly for the Zyban hormone surge: 4

Yay, One Away! I am very glad that you’ve decided to give non-smoking a shot. Email me should you need empathetic commiseration. Or better yet, do as I am, and subject others to your smokeless misery. You cold-turkeying it, BTW?

Inverness, don’t you worry now. I am saving an extra special tirade for you, you miserable non-smoker, you.

Lurkers, posters, those who are contemplating kicking the habit, those who need reinforcement for the wisdom of their decision to quit, park your butt (of the posterior variety) and join in the non-smoking merriment.

Status: Day two of Zyban, spent the innaugural Zyban-day in bed felled by terrible cramps and felt otherwise delightfully buzzed for the first 8 hours. Sensed no decrease in nicotine craving - perhaps I’m getting a tad impatient in the expectation of a miracle ‘cure’. Which leads me to wonder, does the diminished craving arrive as an epiphany or does it seep in more slowly - not unlike the E Coli bacteria in Walkerton’s wells.

The Pity Count: Stalled at one. Demanded that Hans pity me and he’s eagerly complying. He is being rather relentless, though, and I may have to fire him - “oh baby, how are you?”; “we’ll now grow old together but you’ll always look younger than I do.”

Sumo Toddler’s proving unreliable in the pity department and seems more concerned with his Sonic game than the welfare of his mother’s lungs. Self-proclaimed Geek Boy and Mini-me don’t understand what the big deal is. Perhaps I should take away their Nintendo and Sega and see how well they fare through the withdrawal.

Routine Schmoutine: In a bid to avoid the smoking triggers, I have started to arbitrarily impose new rules on myself in an effort to break free from habitual and routine smoking. I now wait at least ten minutes before I have the first cigarette of the morning, I will only smoke when I physically desire one, I have started to call Hans, Olaf.

Enemy Territory: Bars, restaurants, soccer games, the barn, my brother’s house. I smoke more in a bar and will linger over many cigarettes after a good meal. Mini-me’s soccer tournaments stress me out and in reaction I will smoke. I am, yes, one of those horrible people who has smoked while astride, our trainers also smoke which will usually compel me to light up. Ditto my evil brother. I will avoid all enemy territory until my second smoke-free week.

Reaching out to your inner bitch: I have six days remaining before I must permanently butt out and have taken to repeating a daily mantra, which goes something like this: “I don’t want to die”. Given my children’s indifference, though, I have amended it to: “I don’t want to die so that I may continue to torment my children well into my '90’s.” I need to be as relentless bitchy about kicking the habit as I have been with the cable repair guy.

Non-smoking incentive: I must, I must, I must, I must increase my butt!

Heidi! You can do it. I took Zyband for two weeks before I quit. The day I quit I continued to take the Zyban twice/day. I also (my doctor suggested this) went on the patch, 21 for two weeks, then 14/2 weeks and 7/2 weeks! It worked! I also worked with a group called smokestoppers.com on line. I have been smoke free for 6 1/2 months! I unfortunately had to buy bigger breeches, but what the hell! I can always start running, (sure if someone starts chasing me with a stick!) This program really worked for me and I was a 2 pack a dayer for 20 years!!! You can do it! Just take it slow! Yes it creeps up on you, one day you simply realize that you can talk on the phone and not smoke, eat and then not smoke, but god help you avoid alcohol! I still can’t drink and talk on the phone without wanting a smoke! Good luck, you’ll free better in no time! Drink tons of water! Slurp water (I always carry a bottle with me) whenever you want a smoke, the craving only lasts 2 minutes! Time it if you have to! Go for it!

Well I tried to see how long I could go today without smoking .
8am woke up and made a tea, turned on the computer and checked the message boards while drinking tea. ( no cigarette ) by now I would have had 2.
9:30am Went out and walked my lanlords dog ( still no cigarette
10:00am went to town and had breakfast ( bacon and eggs with 3 cups of coffee ) got up paid and made my way to the bank ( still no cigarette )
By now I would have had at least 7.
Go to bank and have to deal with horrible bank teller who will not cash my check even though she knows who I am
11:25am Go to car and smoke 2 cigarettes

I am soooooooooo weak under pressure

Times I thought about smoking during that 3hr and 25min time span 1000000000,000000000,00

Oh well there is always tomorrow.

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when someone lights up in a movie? STOP watching TV!!! My worst craving is when I’m pulling a horse trailer, and an 18-wheeler is about to pass me, or worse–torrential downpour-when you can’t see the road.

Sorry Heidi, but if you quit for 6 months, I will. On the anniversary of my 6 months, I will light up! Muahaha!

I admire your trying, but it seems that your withdrawal symptoms are a bit extreme.

You can only quit when you’re ready to, and REALLY want to. It’s a mental thing–I’ve “quit” a million times(sometimes for up to a year), but wasn’t ready to totally commit.

Idea for new thread—SA–Smokers Anonomous!

Don’t get stuck in the sludge if you’re that confident in your ride!

Heidi - I must echo what Jeb has said … I thought you had to take Zyban for much longer than you have planned to allow it to build up in your system. I thought it was 2-4 weeks. Have they changed the formula?

Are you sure you have given yourself enough time?

Sounds like you’re more like half a pack away LOL
I can so relate to your day. I’ve been there baby!!
Seriously, quitting cold turkey is hard. Way hard. You’ll think much less about those darned smokes if you try quitting with the patch. Trouble is, it’s not the “habit” that’s making you think about those ones that you missed smoking - it’s the addiction flashing messages to your brain “feed me! feed me!” it’s so brutal!!! At least the patch makes you think less about smoking because the physical urge is being met without having to light up. And you’ll have really, really cool dreams with the patch.
No matter how you chose to quit, good luck to you. Let us know how you make out!!

in that I’m not really good at it anymore, but damn it I’m trying!

My hubby is always saying “Lisa, we really SHOULD quit” To which my response is:
“What’s this WE Kemosobee, if you wanna quit, godspeed, but i will continue to enjoy my 2-3 smokes a day”

I mean really there are VERY few things that make me unconditionally happy. A good Dunhil, a Good Beer, and my horsies. Jeez, you should have seen me at the end of my first hunt. I was in heavan

I agree with Silly in that you can’t quit till you’re REALLY ready, so don’t kill yourself…or the l’il ones

Good luck, and I’ll offer you all the support i can
Do Good

–If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

You’re the first person I’ve “met” who said that hypnosis worked for them … that’s great!

does this mean I should go to Florida instead of the RWF???

Don’t get stuck in the sludge if you’re that confident in your ride!

To quote another cliche from the ol’ ten steppers,

Just for Today

Meaning we can probably do just about anything for ONE day. Maybe for smoking the increment of time could be reduced, like Just for an Hour, or even Just for 15 minutes, what ever gets you to the next Just for…

Good luck and try to keep your melodrama to a minimum, the bigger deal I made of it the harder I found it was to quit.

“The older I get, the better I used to be.”