the Honest Kitchen Pet food

[Pancakes]

[QUOTE=dalpal;5624423]
I don’t think I have all the answers, I come on this site for help and advice all the time. I have learned a few things from folks on this site. I have experience with stone formers and was simply trying to offer some helpful suggestions…like distilled water.[/QUOTE]

I was generalizing…not trying to single any one person out. You have valid points about stone-formers but I think that Nezzy wanted things to stay more on-track about the original topic.

[wendy]

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Originally Posted by wendy
Why would reducing the protein change the pH of the urine? I’m assuming the stones are struvites. The high pH is actually caused by the bacterial infection, not the dog’s diet. Once the infection is cleared and the stones are dissolved by the treatment diet, the dog can eat anything.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/cani...er_stones.html

In the dalmatian breed, that’s not completely true (not sure what type of dog the OP has)…we do have to watch out for foods high in purines…organ meats are high in purines. But most important is getting fluids into the dog and making sure they urinate several times each day.

yes but the kind of stones dalmations form are kind of unique. The comments about “high pH” suggests struvites are the problem, not the dalmation type stones.

Struvites are caused by a bacterial infection that raises the pH of the urine and allows the stones to form. Diet doesn’t really play any role (except in treating the stones once they form). The key to prevention is preventing infections, which is probably best addressed by fluids and frequent bladder emptying.

[Boomer]

[QUOTE=Nezzy;5620066]
I am new to the HK but my dogs are scarfing it down. costs an arm and leg, but it’s supposedly worth it b/c it’s so much healthier for them. It is a raw-dehydrated meal that you rehydrate with water. It’s got no bad grains and it’s human grade ingredients. If you are a user or you used to be, let me know what you think.

** this thread is about Honest Kitchen. Not other dog foods. I am happy you like what you feed, but in this thread, lets stick to this food.* thanks.[/QUOTE]

I used to feed this for a long time. My dog is an aussie shep with epliepsy. At the time, it seemed like a good option to doing raw-homecooked. It’s easy for pet sitters to deal with.
My dog liked it and did well on it.

Eventually I switched to Wellness Core Lite kibble + wet food to help ease the budget and my dog is getting old and needed a lite food.

[wendy]

let me clarify: I think HK’s Preference is horribly unhealthy, look at the details and make up your own mind about it’s problems. The other formulas are fine, but not worth the money, since their nutritional profiles match many sub-optimal kibbles, and if you want to feed a high-carbohydrate diet why spend the money to buy HK? feed Purina or Old Roy instead.
If you want to spend money to feed a good, healthy diet one of the premade raws or one of the good low carb kibbles will cost less than HK and will be healthier. HK can be part of a healthy diet but not the base of it- as a mixer, an occasional meal, or if you supplement it to make up for the various formulas problems.

HK has never done feeding trials. Preference doesn’t even meet the lax AAFCO standards.

[Nezzy]

[QUOTE=wendy;5625895]
let me clarify: I think HK’s Preference is horribly unhealthy, look at the details and make up your own mind about it’s problems. The other formulas are fine, but not worth the money, since their nutritional profiles match many sub-optimal kibbles, and if you want to feed a high-carbohydrate diet why spend the money to buy HK? feed Purina or Old Roy instead.
If you want to spend money to feed a good, healthy diet one of the premade raws or one of the good low carb kibbles will cost less than HK and will be healthier. HK can be part of a healthy diet but not the base of it- as a mixer, an occasional meal, or if you supplement it to make up for the various formulas problems.

HK has never done feeding trials. Preference doesn’t even meet the lax AAFCO standards.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for clarifying. The Preference is meant to be fed in addition to a raw diet, there is no meat in it at all so that you can choose the meat. Maybe to those who feed raw, that is a waste of time and money, so i understand. for me i am looking at the Fish and the turkey b/c of my one dog’s allergies and my other dog’s sensitive stomach. Fish and turkey would be the only meat i could use to feed my dogs b/c of that. ( i have a poop eater so i try to feed them all the same in case i don’t get to the poop before the poop-eater gets it)

[HydroPHILE]

The only time we’ve used THK foods is when we go out backpacking for 3+ days. It’s easier to carry a complete dehydrated food than bags of kibble. One dog is picky as all get out, and the other will eat anything.

[Boomer]

[QUOTE=wendy;5625895]
let me clarify: I think HK’s Preference is horribly unhealthy,…HK has never done feeding trials. Preference doesn’t even meet the lax AAFCO standards.[/QUOTE]

I fed HK’s “Force”.