The horse market is making me crazy

I may be in the market for another horse to be my dressage partner and occasionally ride trails. The prices on horses that I would consider are outrageous. For example: a grade hony who has been taught tricks, 70k. An off-breed doing basic w-t-c, decent mover, 40k. Another off-breed, training level, an okay mover, 40k, but maybe less because she has a vice (cribber). Dressage ponies that move like ponies (flat gaits) are priced in the mid-fives.

At my age I really don’t want to spend a lot of money. I’ve already done that! Also, because of my age, I prefer not to buy an un-started horse. Based on prices, that may be my only choice. There are off-breed diamonds-in-the-rough out there. I just need to look under rocks.

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I think these prices are here to stay.

You might be able to find a grade horse started western that could be a decent enough mover to clean up with dressage training for mid-high four figures, but gone are the days you can buy a functionally built, sound, nice moving horse for anything under low five figures.

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What you suggest is my likely plan. I have seen some Arab crosses that are quite nice, also Arabs that do not have the typical dishy faces and conformation most breeders like. One of my ponies came from a feed lot and turned into a very fancy, but spicy dressage mount. She was little too spicy for me, so she was sold.

Right now, I have a quarter horse who is a super nice mover. Exceptional temperament. Unfortunately, he needs to downgrade to an easier job due to arthritis. I’ve always had TBs or WB crosses and never considered a QH until I found this guy. I’ll consider almost any breed if it is uphill, nice gaits and a good brain. Oh, and sound.

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I suggest networking --ask all your horse friends to keep an eye out for what you want --but be clear and succinct --you can always expand your “check list” later -but for now, broad strokes. It worked for me. I wanted:
–sound
–gelding
–w/t/c pretty much hands free since I wanted him for mounted archery -
–loads
–5-10 years old
–Hancock bloodline (ok, that was a real hope, but . . .)

And, amazingly, one friend found exactly what I wanted! Was it perfect? --not quite --Bob has “issues” with other horses --he must be pastured alone --that’s why his owner (actually knew her through my kids’ 4-H days) needed him gone after only owning him 7 months --she had 4 horses in a dry lot with great hay --but Bob was non-stop picking on the other three. . . because I had cash-in-hand (pending PPE) she sold him to me despite having a higher offer if she would “wait until the weekend.” Yeah --those people sometimes don’t show up or don’t like horse when they do! So he was MINE!

And the pasture issue: as it happens, I am set up for individual turn out in 5 acre pastures with water and run-in sheds for each horse.

Found out Bob does not like clippers, but he’s ok with scissors. I can live with that.

Although Bob is great on the trail --he was not a fan of fox hunting --I could MAKE him do it, but I already have a lovely fox hunter so it’s ok.

And like my other two Hancock geldings, Bob will never need shoes! Great feet!

Bob has become, in the 11 months I’ve had him, the horse I dreamed of --and more --working with an excellent trainer --we, rather she, discovered some training we didn’t know Bob had --after sending him to cow camp and finding out he does have cow sense (he should with his breeding – the Hancock I hoped for) --we have continued to find more and more things Bob can do well —and Ranch Horse Showing is in our future plans for 2025 --today I was struggling with side passes --Bob is spot on going left, and a hot mess going right --until . . .I put my leg on him a bit more by the girth and less by the flank --TA DA! Bob side passes great BOTH ways if the idiot rider (me) can get the cues straight!

Best of all --at my age (70+) I feel safe on him. He will be 10 in January --and honestly, I am all excited about changing to Ranch Horse --two years ago I was working daily to learn dressage --I did learn a bit and showed one show —but, frankly, I was sick of circles! I currently do Mounted Archery, and will continue, but my partner for that sport has a new baby --we were doing 6-7 meets a year --last year we only did 3 —Bob will be a good archery horse --but I want to do more than shoot arrows on my course here at home.

Horses take us on different paths, sometimes. I’ve fox hunted for 57 years --I’m ready for something new! Actually considered roping --BUT my tactful trainer said that while Bob was suitable, starting roping at my age might not be a good idea —I CAN rope --my ma taught me --but not so sure this old gal could leap off a horse and throw a calf on the ground —I think steer wrestling is out too —but Ranch Horse --that seems fun!

Bob going after cows at cow camp!

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Bob is nice! Love a good quarter horse.

I have a really good network, but they are all in the high-end market. Sometimes my trainer runs across something out of the ordinary. She thinks the sport horse market is going to ease up next year. Not sure about that.

I’ve had dressage ponies for the last 17 years. (I bought my first WB pony before they were cool.) That’s what I want, but that market has exploded. So I look for small horses or ponies that are off-breeds.

I’m also 70 and breakable, so I can have a trainer start a horse/pony if I think it will present anything I can’t handle.

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West coast.

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As an example, I would consider this mare. She has the basics and could be trained as a dressage horse. She is 10k. There are lots of Aztecas on the West coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VgYdrJYZA8

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I think prices are going to start coming down-- they are in Europe for younger stock. They are unsustainable and I’m seeing horses sitting unsold for months at inflated prices on PNW sites. I doubt they’ll be back to pre-pandemic prices, but one can hope. I agree that some horses are just ridiculously overpriced. I guess they don’t need to sell them very quickly.

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Let’s hope you are right! It’s cheaper to buy a pony in Europe now even with import costs. I’m also in the PNW and have probably seen some of the same horse and ponies for sale. Some have been on the market forever.

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Indeed! I’m worried about finding a new hunter in a few years, as well. I lucked into my mare-- it really takes a network to find a reasonably priced horse at this point.

Every so often there’s a nice Andalusian in your part of the World for a good price…on Craigslist. Lol

Now, I know some are dancers (poor horses), others just trail, etc. You never know what you will find on Craigslist.

There are some nice ones though and at times I really regret having full pastures.

ETA: cute horses like this and some really fancy ones pop up from time to time

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I just bought my horse in June. Like you, I am “breakable” (approaching 70) and was shocked at how much a decent moving, sane, sound horse was that knew its job. I kept getting shown horses in the 50k-plus range. Maybe if and when I become a wealthy widow, but until then, nope.

So I started telling people I was looking for a glorified older lady’s luxury pet… with skills. Then I finally broke down and joined FB so I could participate in some groups and post In Search of Ads. I made it clear what I wanted and that I wasn’t traveling beyond a certain radius to try horses. Though not all the horses were appropriate, the videos and messaging helped me refine my criteria and really see what’s out there.

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I belong to the group that posts horses from Emerald Downs. Every so often there is one that is super fancy. The problem is they are too big. Also both of my ex-racers passed a vet check, but had bone spurs in their hocks. They flexed clean, so I didn’t x-ray.

Do you look at OTTBs?

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She’s cute, but older than I want. Can’t beat the price! The video shows no canter, so that is a missing piece.

I know someone who bought a part-bred “dancer.” Sweet guy looks like he was made from spare parts. Another person I know bought a purebred Andalusian at an auction and he is gorgeous. She paid a very low price. I like them as long as they have some elasticity in their movement and use their back.

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Thanks. There is a breeder in South Dakota who breeds nice dressage ponies. The prices are not too high. Shipping has gone up dramatically. I paid a fortune to have my current horse shipped from Washington state to Oregon.

Three years ago, I passed on a really nice Welsh Cob located in Minnesota. His price, along with a pre-purchase and shipping put him out of my price range. He is now a top dressage pony.

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I have seen several nice smaller WB’s that I might be interested in. But they are all in the western hinterlands of Canada. And I am in the SE USA. They look reasonably priced and they are nice horses. But so far!!! Can I teleport to go see them? And be back by feeding time?

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@sparkygrace
I do not look at OTTBs, as I just do not want to roll the dice on them: I’m older, not the bravest any more, and don’t want to spend a few years getting one where it needs to be to compete in the hunters. I’ve looked in the eventer market but they are high priced now too. Are you a member of NW Sporthorse Party FB page? Eventers of the west FB? Plaidhorse Thermal Classifieds FB? All of those have great horses in decent price ranges posted often. Smaller, dressage type is what you are looking for, yes?

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I belong to the NW Sporthorse group and lots of dressage pony, German riding pony, small warmbloods, and about 20 other groups. I’m a straight dressage rider, so don’t belong to any eventing groups.

Five of my horses have been TBs; two raced. I debuted one of my ex-racers at DevonWood. I was younger then. :rofl:

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Yes, I’m looking for small, 14.1 - 15.2. I’m petite. :smirk:

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If Lusitanos interest you, Kenton Wright has a breeding program in Milton Freewater and has tons of connections. He might be a good source if that suits. It’s funny, I always see horses who are too small for me (I need a slightly beefy 16.1 or bigger to balance my “warmblood build”). I miss the QH/TB crosses that used to be available here in the PNW (not appendix OTQH race types), and the draft crosses that used to be affordable. Sigh… where’d I put that lottery ticket?

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