The one showing “uploading” is the first one I tried to add as a screenshot. But I did it again and it showed up right away. (So now both are there.) I can’t delete the extraneous links, etc, though.
If it’s bugging you to have them there, you can just edit, backspace through the text and it’ll go away. Don’t think it matters much one way or the other though. Glad you were able to get the pics in line, rather than links!
Are these builders home builders? Framing looks more like for a house than a barn
ETA: and houses are built framing first
This isn’t evil and can be done successfully. In some cases it can be nice to understand the size and system of the layout. Sometimes building from the outside in makes things look smaller than you originally wanted. I’ve also seen a couple of structures built outside in where the stalls didn’t not seem structurally sound. For a permanent structure I would rather not have floating or modular stalls if possible.
the free standing stalls we have are attached to one another but not secured to the building, the reasoning is the stalls are not part of the building, they are basically furniture. Being “furniture” we could take the stalls with us if we were to sell the property. Same for the many thousands of dollars of stall mats.
Also without the stalls being attached to the building it was easy to have the barns considered to be garages for loan values (here a garage is valued about three times that of a barn)
I understand why people do this. I also have seen a big young warmblood move a row of modular stalls so I would rather them be completely independent or completely unmoveable.
My “modular” stalls (shipped as sets of 4 connected stalls) are bolted to the footings. They are not moving anywhere.
ours are not bolted to the floor, however each stall is fully matted with the mats being installed into the stall, full coverage. The bottom rail of the stall wall is entrapped. For a horse to displace the stall they would need to lift the wall over the mats then push the wall.
The barn has a full concrete paver floor that has been matted after the stalls were placed on the concrete floor.
That’s how I tried to delete them, and it didn’t work.
More to check into and consider before deciding how to build.
If you build an all purpose structure and add portable stalls, your taxes will reflect that.
Also the resale value will fit a larger market.
If you build a horse barn with stalls part of the framing, attached to it, is taxed as a horse barn and that is higher.
That’s what I said. I’m not sure if they build houses or not. The business is E&R Honey Farm. He answered when I asked for recommendations for barn builders on Facebook (and someone chimed in and recommended him.) I wouldn’t be surprised if the one barn I saw is the only one he ever built. He built the fronts on those stalls like a prison,solid walls and the only bars were on the sliding doors. I told him he needed to build my stalls the way I wanted them, then they put in this framing without asking for any clarification.
Red flags that he was NOT a horse barn builder
He suggested using aluminum porch railing as the bars between the stalls, specifically one with pointy tops. (Actual horse stall components cost about the same.)
Wanting to use T1-11 for the stall fronts
He wanted to use 1" wood on both sides of the stall posts and have a ton of 2x4 framing between stalls. (I think I posted about that on here, and got feedback that that was overkill. I wanted 2x lumber on one side of the posts.)
If you have a pole barn built then the stalls are not really tied into the shell. We did the inside work on our barn and started before the full exterior of the barn was complete.
Mine use the outside 6x6s, so they are tied into the shell.
For tax purposes, if stalls are portable, they may qualify as furniture.