The Name of Your Horse May Be Offensive to Some People. Please Change It.

:eek: Welcome to the New World Order.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-traveler-20170818-story.html

:rolleyes: People have gotten too damned sensitive.
Really? A mascot’s name with reference to Robt E Lee’s horse offends?

Gee, guess I shouldn’t call my black horse Sambo*

*Note: 2Dogs attempts sarcasm, please do not rip on me
& BTW: as a child that story never seemed to me to infer anything other than tigers were easily fooled & could be run into butter.
For those too young to remember:

http://people.ischool.illinois.edu/~heinric3/514LBS/LittleBlackSamboText.html

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I’m with you, 2DF. Compare the story of Sambo to Goldielocks. She broke into the bear’s home, valdalized it and passed out in the bedroom. I think between the two stories, Goldie shows up on the short-straw side.

Note: We’re talking fariy stories, here. Let’s keep things in perspective, shall we?

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and those damned Trojans had salves too

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Our school has the UGLIEST mascot ever.

He is a war time arcaic character called “The Patriot”.
I absolutely hate it and don’t think it is appropriate for a public highschool.

Stoney Creek had ONE battle in 1813.

Why do our children have to be reminded of it everyday 200 + years later?

:lol: Agreed!
Goldilocks was Gangsta!

Geesh - do we now need to remove the Brothers Grimm from libraries?
Those stories had some pretty violent endings < which I loved as a kid :wink:

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And they used SLAVES to apply those salves! :winkgrin:

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I get fun looks when people hear my horse’s name is Isis.

Lest we forget she was an Egyptian Goddess long before she was an acronym.

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well I find it completely ironic that the students are not protesting the game itself as the players are more like gladiators who can earn their freedom if they are great… you know sign that NFL contract

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Meh, people have a right to speak out on this issue. Other people also have the right to not listen to those people. Nothing to get your knickers in a knot over unless people (and by people I mean anyone, not just certain groups) start threatening harm.

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There is a local company that changed their name from Isis (I forget the new one) because when employees were travelling for work they were getting held up in Customs/Immigration because of the company name.

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Sheesh!

I had a payment to my vet stopped by Paypal and put under investigation.
I have them use her registered name after that.

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This quote from the article sums it up for me! “The problem is this: maybe three weeks ago it was fine,” Pat Saukko DeBernardi said. “So now the flavor of the day is . . . we all have to be in hysteria. . . . It’s more of a political issue. The horse isn’t political and neither am I.”

It seems to be the cool new thing to get offended by every innocuous thing :lol: Travellers insurance better watch out!

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A friend had to change her horse’s name for her 4-h leaser to be allowed show at the fair a few years ago-
Her name is Isis, after the goddess, from long before the terror group came to the forefront
Didn’t matter- 4-h said change her name or don’t show.

Just FYI, If your horse is Isis, you can change it to Ist (pronounced East). Isis is the greek. Ist is the ancient Egyptian. Same goddess.
https://www.behindthename.com/name/isis

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Where did the article get the idea that Lee’s Traveller was an Arabian stallion? Pretty sure Traveller was an old-style ASB gelding.

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The article says the original Traveler who performed at USC was purchased in 1958 and was a Tennessee Walker/Arab cross who had been used in movies.

Thanks, but Isis is the Egyptian, and I’m not interested in changing her name just because some people are ridiculous.

http://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/isis.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis

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A vet that I used to work with named her daughter Isis 11 years ago. Is she supposed to change her name? This is beyond ridiculous. I don’t get what’s wrong with The Patriot as a mascot. Sounds like a good name to me.

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MM, those sources work only because the Hellenized version of the name is in regular usage now. That name came into common usage mainly during the Ptolemaic era and to a lesser degree, earlier, as Middle Kingdom pharaohs brought in many Greek mercenaries who made themselves at home in Egypt. All of the Ptolemy dynasty was Greek, spoke, read existed in Greek. Cleopatra (THE Cleopatra, I forget her second name. There were a few gals by that name in the family) was the only one of the bunch who learned how to speak Egyptian. Many New Kingdom documents have three scripts, hieroglyphic, demotic and Greek, for this reason.

Ist is Old Kingdom.
(Source: Bob Brier lectures)

Note that on the page link I gave, it says "Greek form of Egyptian Ist (reconstructed as Iset or Ueset), "

Not to worry. It was just a thought. I certainly understand that they really have no business telling you (or anyone) what to name a horse.

I just have a personal, and usually internal, preference for using the original Old Kingdom type Egyptian names for things like that, not names imposed upon the Egyptians by Greek and other conquerors, such as, if someone says Nubia, my brain looks up Kush.

Oh, Well. I have always been just a bit different.

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