He may not care, but people need to see him for who he is - and women in particular need to run away from him in droves
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I also agree with the premise but may have added retirement as an option if the horse was safe being handled on the ground and the owner had the means to do so.
Iāll admit I read the article early this morning before coffee so I donāt know if the owner would consider that.
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She asked him āWhat do you think I should do with her?ā
He answered.
She didnāt ask āwhat are all my options here?ā which could have included retirement.
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Thing is, this is COTH; Iām surprised nobody has mentioned a possible physical reason for this mareās behavior?
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Heās always been a Grade A egotistical pr**k.
He pops up on TT as I scroll sometimes and it always makes me want to barf; heās proud of how hard he is on horses and women. Itās not unheard of for horses to die in his program. He needs to be ignored on a large scale.
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Iām sure there is. But a 20 year old who has now learned to habitually buck really has no viable future as a using horse. Pasture pet, maybe. But even with the physical issues resolved, sheās been through 5 or 6 trainers who (ultimately) taught her to buck. You arenāt fixing that.
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Agree with this. That woman he spoke to in that transcript? Thatās the main core of his clinic clientele.
Maybe thereās some self-loathing involved, where heās come to realize that heās only considered a celebrity within the ranks of people he seems to genuinely dislike. Like so many popularized āhorsemenā before him, heās nothing more than a guy with a saddle bag full of gimmicks and a great marketing firm that figured out how to package the gumbo heās selling.
Oh. On top of that, the guyās a pig. Thereās that, too.
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I was thinking it, but not wanting to post. 
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Interesting that you say that. Because when I saw that it was Clinton Anderson and he spoke that way I was not surprised at all. I thought there was multiple instances where he talked so crass like this? I always thought he was KNOWN for this. Like this is the type talk people expect from him at this point.
Otherwise, I agree with your point. Everyone can have a bad day. And we hold up trainers as perfect but they arenāt.
But again, I thought this was the normal for this specific trainer. Itās been my understanding for years.
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Fair enough. I think if I were asked that question Iād have offered options. But there is a part of me that really appreciates answering the specific question asked. 
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I think I know that lady. She was constantly buying unsuitable horses that she was afraid to ride and tried to get someone else to do it for her. Most of them had explosive personalities or were rearers, I witnessed it one day, horse went over backwards and almost landed on top of her.
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Because the thread is about CAās behavior. Not about the horse. Two different subjects.
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Though, I can see them intertwined. His behavior is even worse because he didnāt consider a pain issue. (Like his behavior can get much worse than it already is!)
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I canāt imagine that anyone who really knows much about CA would be surprised by that story. Itās typical of CA, sometimes even when sober (probably) and shooting a video. Not the first time, wonāt be the last.
He seems to have no conscience when it comes to what he is doing with, and to, a horse. He does not seem to care.
Or what nastiness he says to people who came to him through their belief in him. On the published video! Itās like cult grooming ā how much will you put up with?
CAās behavior is no secret. Itās right there on his own published videos. And tv show episodes.
I canāt imagine that people only just discovered this, with years of it on the record. And he may not be the worst among publicity-seeking horse trainers.
Why are people so surprised to find out that a ācelebrityā - any celebrity - is not the pleasant uplifting personality that is portrayed to the public?
Or maybe the real question is why do people believe the promotion in the first place? That always mystifies me. Thatās the celebrityās job, not who they are as people.
Itās fine to enjoy the parasocial relationship with the promotional personality. As a hobby, or as an uplifting source of inspiration. But keep it in perspective ā this promotion is not a real person. As they say ā donāt meet your heroes! 
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He didnāt care about the horse. He wasnāt talking about the horse.
He was being deliberately nasty to this woman client of his that he wanted to disappear.
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Yeah there could be things wrong with tge horse but this thread is not about that. The owner of the horse is not here and we have no history or specific information plus no way to get any.
The whole thing would be a hypothetical discussion of a vague situation relayed by a third party with no details to help isolate the problem. Not much point.
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For several years I lived about 45 minutes from CAās farm in north Texas and drove past it from time to time. At the time he was at what may have been the height of his horse-training empire ā showy lights-flashing public demos and appearances on horseback; huge video sales; the TV shows; clinics clinics clinics ā¦ and he had a training business at his farm plus a sort of school for turning out ācertifiedā trainers who would be working almost as a sort of franchise with their own clinic and training business. CA was everywhere in many horse circles.
It really was all based on shtick. Horse training is horse training ā it isnāt really a mystery what can get a quick change for the camera. CA was bringing huge showmanship to the enterprise. And at the time, he was on the crest of a sort of boom with these types of trainers. Parelli, Monty Roberts, etc. were touring and selling videos and on and on.
During that time I noticed that several of his more notable ācertifiedā trainer products would work under his auspices while they were required to by whatever contract they had signed with him ā¦ but as soon as they could, they would break from the CA training method and re-fashion their own. Some would distance themselves and drop his name/certification from their own promotion ā that was interesting! But none said anything bad about him, not publicly. Iām sure there was a clause for that, too. At the time there were 5 or 6 of these CA-certified trainers working on their own, empire-building locally wherever they were based.
Anyway, there was plenty of gossip about CAās harsh personality with people and horses. With his clients, his staff, his own trainers.
Several horror stories from people who naively turned over their horse to the CA horse-training program. Where owners were not allowed any contact and very few sketchy updates while the horse was there. Only to be dismayed later by the damaged horse returned to them. Sending your horse and a ton of money into a black hole for weeks, perhaps months ā what were you thinking ???
I always thought that anyone who got involved in any way with CAās program was doing so based on belief in his self-promotion, and must not have done any research at all. There was plenty to find even in those days of less productive internet search.
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I do not disagree. 
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Well, yes - this.
Any trainer who doesnāt consider the whole horse is not much of a trainer.
Though this is about his behavior towards the horseās owner, it just proves that he is completely transactional and doesnāt give a ratās ass about any of the horses that are brought to him for ātraining.ā
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Almost forgot ā¦ in addition to the long list of enterprises above, CA was also selling horses that were claimed to be entirely produced from his own training program and so were practically perfect in every way. For tens of thousands of dollars. As a virtual guaranteed perfect riding horse for whoever bought them. Could get tune-up training for $$ during ownership.
On the internet there was less than complete satisfaction from the buyers who had owned their CA horse for a while. The problem is that horses are horses, not computer programs or manufactured machinery. In my own experience with horses trained to a high level, they are all about as good as their last 5 rides.
Horses re-program themselves based on their most recent experiences. That was leaking onto the internet.
Also that owners were struggling to get the CA training program to come reset their horse back to the original version that they thought they bought. Iām sure the demand for that service was at the level of intrusive to whatever else the very busy CA had going.
Iām not sure the certified-trained-horse-selling program lasted ā does the still do that?
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